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Subject: [Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:01:04 -0500
References: <B7ECDFB9-86C7-4E92-99ED-EBD72BB7F3CA@mac.com> <f6945943-d983-3cd3-4de8-272314a2f8e8@gmail.com> <907501B6-7D68-4B03-89E1-41C5CEA4ADDB@mac.com> <819f7742-9e28-bd04-20bc-b98fa1d914c2@lighttube.net> <451215FF-752A-429A-9A21-5F94F7E65792@mac.com> <C9722E8E-D6ED-40A2-BD9E-8BF58E0168EE@gmail.com> <a3e70e59-b2e6-235d-f975-50082d4205e6@lighttube.net>

I will add that the mirrorless cameras allow focusing at set aperture and
at the position in the optical field that you want sharp.   Many of our
older lenses suffered from focus shift and field curvature: both flaws
handled well with the mirrorless bodies.

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 11:28 AM Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
wrote:

> Lluis, in these days of adapters and mirrorless cameras, the Elmarit-R
> 90 f/2.8 with retractable hood is a pleasure to use, though not suitable
> for rangefinder cameras. Mine stays on my Fuji X-T2.
>
> On 7/18/21 7:32 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
> > Fortunately in my Leica experience I had the chance to use several 90
> lenses
> >
> > Elmar 9 cm f4 on my Leca IIIF times, it was a very nice compact lenses,
> smooth tones and resolution
> > Elmarit 90 f 2.8 M, it was too soft contrasted for me
> > Summicron 90 R, I loved this one, maybe my favorite 90
> > Tele-Elmarit 90 M F 2.8, a wonderful compact lens, useful!
> > Summicron 90 AA, excellent and somertimes too sharp
> >
> > Lluis
> >
> >
> >
> >> El 18 jul 2021, a les 5:47, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
> >> leica-users.org>
> va escriure:
> >>
> >> Ah, so it is younger than me, and in much better shape. Thanks very
> much Jim. That is where I was hoping it would be. Non clinical, nice bokeh.
> >>
> >> Jeffery
> >>
> >>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jeffery,
> >>>
> >>> Lenses made in 1951 range from 840001 to 950000.
> >>>
> >>> On 7/17/21 10:04 PM, Jeffery Smith via LUG wrote:
> >>>> I have about 7 LTM cameras, and like most of them. I'll check the
> serial number next time I'm in the house (I'm stationed in Mom'a garage).
> The lens I got is remarkably clean, no haze, no fungus, no "cleaning marks
> that don't affect the performance". It is absolutely single coated (if even
> that). It looks unused...the question is why nobody used it. We'll see.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pondering which film to use since I want to do at least E.I. 800
> because the folks at the barbecue are in perpetual motion, and it will be
> under an awning that blocks much of the sun.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, my serial number is 874068. And it has an interesting feature
> than was not intentional...the metal body cap also functions as a lens cap.
> It screws into the body, but pushes onto the end of the lens.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the information Frank. I hope this  is a keeper.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeffery
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 7:49 PM, Frank Filippone via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have one that has a serial number below 100,000, which makes it
> about as old as a Leica lens can be.... ( before 1931.. 90 years old)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is, when mounted with the appropriate adapter and used on an M9,
> almost as sharp in the center as a 90 Elmarit ( the thin, Modern M one).
> It is quite soft as you head towards the corners.  The Elmarit is not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tested it against the later reincarnations, a silver 60's model,
> and did not find a significant difference.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is NOT the clinical look of the 90AA nor the 90 Summarit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am going to test the 90's I have to find their strengths and
> weaknesses.  I will add it to my list of lenses.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It will take a while to test, but I will state the results here....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, I have a 90 ELmar-C which sold for about the same price as the
> LTM model. It is quite good, but if you are looking to get the "special"
> look, skip the C.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LTM models and M models differ 10% in price..... and you do not need
> an adapter if you are using it on an M camera.  Why an LTM model?  LTM
> camera?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you decide on any older Leica lens, check it for haze... a common
> remnant of outgassing of the lubricant originally used.  Common problem
> with lenses through the 70's.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> >>>>> On 7/17/2021 12:37 PM, Jeffery Smith via LUG wrote:
> >>>>>> My Erwin Puts books are back home in Louisiana. Does anyone have
> experience or insight into this particular lens? I would like the vintage
> portrait look, and this model doesn't seem particularly coveted, at least
> not if price is an indicator.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeffery
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>> --
> >>> Jim Nichols
> >>> Tullahoma, TN USA
> >>>
> >>>
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>
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In reply to: Message from smithjeffery at mac.com (Jeffery Smith) ([Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM)
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