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Subject: [Leica] Kentmere 400
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:37:40 +0930
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I haven't used Bergger Pancro 120, only 35mm.  Ilford HP5 always looked the
same to me in all formats, but I haven't used it or any other Ilford film
in over 10 years.

Foma, yes.  I have noticed substantial differences when I look at the
negatives with a microscope.  But it is hard to tell if it is due to
handling, fogging due to plastic wrap vs a cassette, a huge number of
variations.

I will need to think about this soon; my stash of Plus-X is coming to an
end (sad).  I may just buy 1,000 feet of Eastman XX, but I am not sure.

Marty




On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 7:49 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Hi Marty,
>
> Lately I have found that the quality of various brands of film is not the
> same in 35 mm format as in 120 mm, to unsuspected levels of significant
> differences in grain, emulsion, veil. The brands that I have been able to
> verify big differences are Bergger, Ilford HP5, Foma 400, all these have a
> good quality in 120, however not in 35mm, moreover, I would even say that
> they are very similar if you look at them with a good magnifying glass of
> 10x or more and I have the suspicion that it could be that they were made
> by the same manufacturer. What do you think about it?
>
> Best!
> Lluis
>
> > El 13 jul 2021, a les 5:26, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at 
> > leica-users.org>
> va escriure:
> >
> >> I?ve get good results with Foma 400 E.I. 250, 120 format, developed in
> >> D-76 1:1 at 21?C  10? 50?, agitation the first 30? and 4 inversions
> every
> >> minute.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, Foma 400 in 120 is nice but you can treat it completely differently
> to
> > 35mm.  This is 120 Foma 400 in Xtol:
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Portraits/File0966.jpg.html
> >
> > Plenty of nice 35mm examples in the thread at RFF:
> >
> https://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92200&highlight=kentmere+400
> >
> > Kentmere 400 + ilfotec DD-X - grain-free and a bit mushy. Looks like
> >> Eastman XX. Since Eastman XX is half the speed of Kentmere 400 and twice
> >> the price, there is no reason to buy Eastman XX in 35mm format.
> >
> >
> > These films are all a bit soft - coarse grain and mushy edges.  I think
> > HC-110 works really well because of all the strong developing agents and
> > strong restrainers.  I like Eastman XX because it scratches less
> > easily, but I have always found that with Kodak vs Ilford films.
> >
> > Marty
> >
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