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Subject: [Leica] Film availability
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:37:04 +0100
References: <CA+3n+_=Xyu2v-NP3qWVei5DW97Z4i44T1bPLsD-xmrUk6sDdbQ@mail.gmail.com> <4EDD3630-75D7-4B8F-A14A-99885C35E358@frozenlight.eu> <965E2597-B2CC-4926-B37E-5890F65951D0@mac.com> <CA+3n+_mP4Rb-sgbsi36fDAzkvjEU1HYCF9x0+hzpSnoqsgci5Q@mail.gmail.com> <98AA7B85-1B01-4796-B8BB-17FBCEA17FC3@mac.com> <CABmfTOW0_Xmfyxr=SB1vevuBgzY2EGcyqCK+HoeT6ZzmcXUF+A@mail.gmail.com> <CAACyePxWWywhCqge+C+TqiBG+4kUAkgCgcftrTSjj=pOYHVQSA@mail.gmail.com> <3035869F-3F57-48A9-9FBD-2E1D1B5C6A4F@gmail.com>

Spot on, Philippe!

My own experience is that outdated B&W film is perfectly fine, but outdated 
developer less so. Lagavulin does help, indeed.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman

Alicante, Spain
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> On 27 Jan 2021, at 18:40, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> Methink a bottle of some ingredient is missing, as per Ted ;-)
> 
> Amities
> 
> Sushi Philippe
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 27 janv. 2021 ? 16:44, Wayne Torry via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a 
>> ?crit :
>> 
>> Thanks Marty!
>> I have an unopened bottle of HC-110 and 2 unopened bottles of Rodinal in
>> the refrigerator.
>> I?m good for awhile!
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:01 AM Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Use HC-110 for expired film.  It has powerful developing agents and a lot
>>> of strong restrainers in it.  It works very well with expired film or 
>>> film
>>> exposed and left for a long time.
>>> 
>>> Note that Kodak has recently reformulated HC-110 and some problems have
>>> been reported.  If you have the old Kodak stuff, that?s the best, but
>>> otherwise the Legacy Pro HC-110 clone from Freestyle is excellent, but 
>>> that
>>> does not last indefinitely in the bottle like the old Kodak product.  The
>>> new Kodak product is too new to really have provided a clear 
>>> understanding
>>> of its shelf life.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 7:25 am, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org
>>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Trust me, I am a "this isn't going to be around long" buyer. I have two
>>>> unopened cases, one of APX 100 and one of APX 400. I'm trying to find a
>>>> developer that is unrefined enough that the 17 years they've been in
>>>> storage won't make a difference. Right now I'm looking at CineStill D-96
>>>> Monobath. If there was ever a developer that sounds like a bad idea,
>>> it's a
>>>> developer that is mixed with the fixer. But I did a roll of it as a 
>>>> test,
>>>> and it isn't all that bad. It comes in packets dry powder that are good
>>> (I
>>>> think) for 20 rolls, just using the stuff straight. For a war
>>> photographer
>>>> in a foreign country, it would be fabulous [if they hadn't invented the
>>>> digital camera].
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just a suggestion from another hobby is to buy in quantity and stack it
>>>>> deep.  So figure out what your needs are and buy that quantity.  You
>>>> might
>>>>> have to dedicate a freezer.  Dry chemistry keeps a long time if kept
>>> cool
>>>>> and dry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 1:04 PM Jeffery Smith via LUG <
>>> lug at leica-users.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I attempted to try out a variety of Adox lower ISO films. I was able
>>> to
>>>>>> get several CMS films and HR-50, but not Silvermax. The next time I
>>>> looked
>>>>>> at BHPhoto and Freestyle, all three of them have been discontinued (at
>>>>>> least in the United States). I'm still feeling the effects of Kodak
>>>>>> discontinuing Panatomic-X, Plus-X, and Verichrome Pan. I hate getting
>>>>>> smitten with a film and developer only to find the film is extinct. I
>>>> had
>>>>>> best stick to the most often used films (as evidenced by their mention
>>>> when
>>>>>> images are posted). I feel safe with Tri-X and HP5+, and hope that
>>> FP4+,
>>>>>> Acros, Delta 100, and TMax100 are relatively safe, though I'm not
>>>>>> absolutely positive about TMax100.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
>>>>>>> frozenlight.eu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, Don! By coincidence, I just bought some Adox film from
>>>>>> Fotoimpex.de.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>>>>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>> <
>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>>>>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "I?m not arguing, I?m just explaining why I?m right"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 18:14, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> While our film shooters probably know this the following link was
>>>>>> accurate
>>>>>>>> for film availability as of November:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photographic_films
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All the best.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
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