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Subject: [Leica] Film availability
From: smithjeffery at mac.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:58:55 -0600
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I shot some APX400 (expired 2007) at nominal 400 speed and developed it in 
Adox FX-39 II (mostly just to see how this developer does with fast film). 
The results are pretty much like what I would see with HC110 or D76. Not 
really grainy (stand development for 37 minutes seems to give it time to 
work on the grain) but more importantly not to contrasty - more like D23 in 
contrast. I will absolutely try the HC110 - I like using it, and don't want 
to toss two cases (not bricks...cases) of outdated APX100 and APX400 when it 
is usable. I get good results from HP5+ and HC110 (1+49), and the timing 
always seems to be about 7 minutes.

Jeffery

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 1:00 AM, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> Use HC-110 for expired film.  It has powerful developing agents and a lot
> of strong restrainers in it.  It works very well with expired film or film
> exposed and left for a long time.
> 
> Note that Kodak has recently reformulated HC-110 and some problems have
> been reported.  If you have the old Kodak stuff, that?s the best, but
> otherwise the Legacy Pro HC-110 clone from Freestyle is excellent, but that
> does not last indefinitely in the bottle like the old Kodak product.  The
> new Kodak product is too new to really have provided a clear understanding
> of its shelf life.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 7:25 am, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Trust me, I am a "this isn't going to be around long" buyer. I have two
>> unopened cases, one of APX 100 and one of APX 400. I'm trying to find a
>> developer that is unrefined enough that the 17 years they've been in
>> storage won't make a difference. Right now I'm looking at CineStill D-96
>> Monobath. If there was ever a developer that sounds like a bad idea, it's 
>> a
>> developer that is mixed with the fixer. But I did a roll of it as a test,
>> and it isn't all that bad. It comes in packets dry powder that are good (I
>> think) for 20 rolls, just using the stuff straight. For a war photographer
>> in a foreign country, it would be fabulous [if they hadn't invented the
>> digital camera].
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a suggestion from another hobby is to buy in quantity and stack it
>>> deep.  So figure out what your needs are and buy that quantity.  You
>> might
>>> have to dedicate a freezer.  Dry chemistry keeps a long time if kept cool
>>> and dry.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 1:04 PM Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I attempted to try out a variety of Adox lower ISO films. I was able to
>>>> get several CMS films and HR-50, but not Silvermax. The next time I
>> looked
>>>> at BHPhoto and Freestyle, all three of them have been discontinued (at
>>>> least in the United States). I'm still feeling the effects of Kodak
>>>> discontinuing Panatomic-X, Plus-X, and Verichrome Pan. I hate getting
>>>> smitten with a film and developer only to find the film is extinct. I
>> had
>>>> best stick to the most often used films (as evidenced by their mention
>> when
>>>> images are posted). I feel safe with Tri-X and HP5+, and hope that FP4+,
>>>> Acros, Delta 100, and TMax100 are relatively safe, though I'm not
>>>> absolutely positive about TMax100.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Don! By coincidence, I just bought some Adox film from
>>>> Fotoimpex.de.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2021, at 18:14, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While our film shooters probably know this the following link was
>>>> accurate
>>>>>> for film availability as of November:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photographic_films
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
>>>>>> 
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