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Subject: [Leica] Garret Island House C. 1750-60
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 01:12:56 +0000
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Fascinating, never see that here in Ireland, we're still in the stone 
age - the place is covered in it.
I thought that moving houses from one location to another was a US 
thing, until I read Peter D's post, and now I see it happens in France 
too. How old were those buildings, Philippe?
Douglas

On 14/01/2021 12:14, Philippe via LUG wrote:
> A vinery owned by a friend looks like this
>   
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Playground/Domaine+Bechtold-1236.jpg.html
>
> The four buildings, which in my view form a harmonious whole, were in fact 
> taken down from four different villages, transported and reconstructed to 
> modern standards by my friend, over the last ten years.
>
> The house in which they live qualifies as ? passive ? and offers all 
> elements of modern comfort. Only the ceilings were raised a little to 
> match current sizes above 6ft :-)
>
> The vinery itself and the cellars are up to the most recent winemaking 
> standards, and one of his main clients is a US importer from NYC.
>
> The estate now looks like the oldest complex in the village,when it was 
> the last one to be (re)built and Jean-Marie started it from scratch.
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
>> Le 14 janv. 2021 ? 12:35, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> a 
>> ?crit :
>>
>> About 150 years ago my great-grandparents lived in a house in North-East
>> Essex, much of which is essentially alluvium from the Thames and the sea
>> with little stone available. It was quite common for people to build
>> houses with clapperboard, or variations on a theme thereof, including
>> timber and brick. As a result houses were fairly easily and often moved.
>> Indeed as a kid, I remember that we went past the house one day (the
>> family having sold it many years before) and my mother commenting that
>> it had been moved from where it was in some very old photos that we had.
>>
>> One of the ways that people kept rats out was to perch grain stores on
>> what are variously called "staddle" or "steddle" stones which look like
>> giant mushrooms or tapered stones with a flat top. The fact that thety
>> are raised not only defeats rodents but also allows for air circulation,
>> particularly useful in the case of granaries. I know of few if any
>> houses that are built on staddle stones here. I guess that they must
>> have been though,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 14/01/2021 04:20, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
>>> The are several other reasons for pier and beam construction.   The first
>>> is cost,  aside from a dirt floor using bricks or stumps lets you level 
>>> the
>>> floor easily.  In the south it also keeps the moisture from the soil away
>>> from your floor so the wood lists much longer.   To Sonny's point,  with 
>>> a
>>> ledge on top of your piers you can keep most rodents out of your house.
>>> You see this especially in Switzerland.
>>>
>>> Last,  if your soil conditions are expansive clays you absolutely need to
>>> allow for movement.  You can place footings several feet below grade to
>>> where the soil moisture remains constant even in drought.  You can give
>>> yourself enough room underneath with piers to periodically level your 
>>> house
>>> with jacks and shims.
>>>
>>> If you look at older homes in the Mississippi delta you will see 
>>> pyramidal
>>> concrete piers under most homes: the better homes will have a skirt to 
>>> hide
>>> the piers.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:47 PM Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the reasons for raised houses is to rise above the dust and heat 
>>>> of
>>>> Southern Summers as well as keeping the varmints from walking or 
>>>> slithering
>>>> through the door.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>> 1714
>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>
>>>> USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cool Ric, but I see it isn't listed here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_North_Carolina
>>>>> so there's another job for you to do during lockdown :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering about the blocks underneath too and whether it was 
>>>>> built
>>>>> on a flood plain. Couldn't find Garret Island on Google Maps though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/01/2021 01:57, CartersXRd via LUG wrote:
>>>>>> Oldest house in Washington County, near Plymouth NC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://2021.cartersxrd.net/2021.01.12x.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ric Carter
>>>>>> www.home.CartersXRd.net
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/ric.carter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -the world?s mosst careless typist-
>>>>>>
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>>
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