Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/06/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]most helpful thanks ric > On Jun 9, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > > I can tell you directly. They will not be able to tell you about a > specific lens, there might be 10 on the shelf and they won't go out and > pull a specific lens. If you are buying a $6000 lens whose value is > dependant on a specific feature or serial number range then mostly they > will confirm or deny. > > Now, ugly falls into one of four categories not exclusive to each other. > Ugly will always be functional unless specifically called out. > > 1) scratch or mar on the front element. > 2) fungus inside > 3) very visible haze, edge seperation > 4) loose mount > > While I worked there we would periodically pull an ugly and an excellent > plus lens and take photographs then pass those photographs around to see if > anyone could tell the difference. If you pay very close attention to > contrast then sometimes you could. > > Two more points, leica lenses are graded much more harshly than almost any > other lens as they are looked over much more carefully by the leica > community. The point of that is if it is fungus it will be very small; > large patches go to eBay. An excellent Leica item might go LN- on any > other brand. This will be denied by KEH but returns are tracked to > specific techs and the Leica community is very fussy. > > Last, I have bought two ugly items from my former employer. The first was > a Canon 300 2.8 L new FD. The surface was beat to low finish levels, and > the mount was loose. Optics were superb. The other was a contax III that > was ugly but it was collectable with a frozen shutter(listed). > > Also, if return shipping isn't a problem for you you still have return > privileges for a full refund. Don't be afraid of ugly, but I wouldn't > buy ugly if it was a lens that was going to support eating or paying rent. > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 11:43 AM Susan Ryan via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> I?ve never had any problem buying ?Bargain? lenses from Keh, but I?ve >> never bought one rated ?Ugly?? There?s an ugly 135 Tele-Elmer available. >> Of >> course I?d call and talk to someone to see what the glass flaws are that >> warrant the ugly rating, but has anyone had good or bad experience buying >> ?Ugly? from them that they?d care to share with me? >> >> Thanks, >> Sue >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information