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Subject: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 26/4/2020: liberation of the children
From: papatorry46 at gmail.com (Wayne Torry)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:27:21 -0400
References: <37E808C6-D434-4492-A4C1-8D4AFCF78C5C@frozenlight.eu> <CA+3n+_mRd0=nmM28v0he0m5i+6kndUyCeLbnFUNXOUesGjo0TA@mail.gmail.com> <b6172688-78f6-f361-3d38-54009498aa46@iol.ie> <CA+3n+_nWhOaDkZxYVh5eS14UVrOHTPwCxYfZNquvO0u3a1hSzw@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmmmm...I have never been called someone?s ancestor before.
LOL!


On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:41 PM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Correct,  in a relatively small number of cases there has been fatal
> strokes.   The NYC data for March of about 5700 patients show no deaths
> under age 14 all hospitalized and all positive for Corona 19.
>
> The Spanish experiment is for short distances outside accompanied by a in
> domicile adult.   All previous distancing rules apply.  There doesn't
> appear to be a large increase in risk vs risk for lowered vitamin D
> levels,  lowered immune system with little outside exposure,  increased
> risk of obesity with little exercise ad nauseum.
>
> There are currently no real interventions for this virus with only hope for
> future progress.   So,  the current best medical information is that if you
> are older than about 60, are hypertensive, obese, and/ or diabetic you are
> at tremendous risk with this virus.   Lesser numbers will have their immune
> system suppressed for example people with organ transplants and are also at
> heightened risk.   Fit, normal immune system,  under 50, no history of
> smoking/ vaping, not IV drug users are at relatively low risk of death.
>
> If you fit the protocols of low risk and you live with people of the same
> profile then you will be able to go out and do normal things.   Caveats
> will be wash your hands,  wear a good mask,  keep your distance from other
> people where possible,  understand your environment.   If your town/
> village has low density and almost no cases then that should be
> sufficient.   If you live in a dense environment with many opportunities to
> touch surfaces that someone not of immediate family touched then much more
> stringent protocols are called for.
>
> Be careful,  understand yourself,  be mindful of your environment,  but
> don't be afraid.   All of our ancestors survived the black plague,  the
> influenza of 1927-18, polio,  HIV, H1N1.  We will get thru this with most
> still standing.   Be safe and enjoy the delights that we have in this
> marvelous civilization.
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 3:49 PM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>
> > Children least affected? Some disturbing news on the children front
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52439005
> >
> > On 27/04/2020 20:17, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
> > > Some bits of sanity prevails.  Children are the least affected by the
> > > virus.  While they may be carriers no one has advocated that children
> > just
> > > be turned out of the home; it made no sense that a child couldn't go
> > with a
> > > parent, aunt, grandmother to the bakery as long as all lived in the
> same
> > > domicile.
> > >
> > > As different parts of the world start opening up in various ways we
> > should
> > > start checking date in about ten days to two weeks to see if there is a
> > > differential infection rate based on testing.  Swedens infection curve
> > > appears to be following the same curve as Spains so possibly they are
> out
> > > of the death spiral as well.  The state of Georgia has the most
> ambitious
> > > reopening(tattoo parlors, nail salons, and patio seating restaurants)
> so
> > > for the US they will be the canary; lets see what happens in 14 days.
> In
> > > Georgia the epicenter has been Atlanta and they are the most reluctant
> to
> > > reopen so this is mostly going to be rural and mid sized cities opening
> > up.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 2:00 PM Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> > > frozenlight.eu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> During our enforced confinement here in Spain which has now entered
> its
> > >> 7th week, arguably the children have suffered the most. Adults could
> > still
> > >> go out to shop for essentials or to work (if the job did not lend
> > itself to
> > >> teleworking), but young children had no such excuse; unless they were
> > sick
> > >> and needed to be taken to the doctor or hospital, they simply had to
> > stay
> > >> at home.
> > >>
> > >> So now that the pandemic seems under control, the very first tentative
> > >> step towards re-opening of the country was taken yesterday: it is now
> > >> allowed for parents to go for a walk with their children younger than
> 14
> > >> (older children are allowed out on their own under the same rules as
> > >> adults). There are many restrictions: no more than 1 km away from
> home,
> > no
> > >> more than 1 hour, only one adult etc. But still, a small sign of
> hope. I
> > >> drove along the beach road yesterday afternoon because I had to go to
> a
> > >> greengrocer that is open on Sundays, and along the way I snapped a
> > couple
> > >> of pics from the car.
> > >>
> > >> A father and his two small children on the beach promenade:
> > >> https://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-m6J32rc/A <
> > >> https://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-m6J32rc/A>
> > >>
> > >> A little girl and her bicycle (the mother is just outside the frame):
> > >> https://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-B6Mg7LL/A <
> > >> https://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-B6Mg7LL/A>
> > >>
> > >> A small ray of sunshine in the bleakness.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Nathan
> > >>
> > >> Nathan Wajsman
> > >>
> > >> Alicante, Spain
> > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> > >> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> > >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> > <
> > >> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> > >>
> > >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> > >> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> > >>
> > >> YNWA
> > >>
> > >> "I?m not arguing, I?m just explaining why I?m right"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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