Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/02/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I?m not sure I?ve invested in the Nikon Z system, 2 weeks ago tomorrow I bought my Z6 and FTZ adapter. I talked to around 20 or so photographers that have been using the Z?s and that includes 5 pro?s. Everyone has been very happy with them, so I bought mine at ImagingUSA. So far I?m happy with the purchase, I have even had success with Bald Eagle in flight shots. Not perfect, but I?ve done pretty good so far. Still in the learning phase, but happy. I bought a $16 M to Z adapter when I got home last week, and my M glass seems to work just fine. Not getting rid of my D4 or D500 anytime soon, but if the expected Pro Z comes out in a year or so I just may get rid of my DSLR?s then. The Pro Z cannot come out to soon as the D6 seems to be a disappointment so far. Gene Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > > This implies sales on the Z6, Z7 and Z50 camera have been slow in sales > and I'm pretty sure that has not been the case at all I think it's been a > boom for Nikon on all levels. I was in the market for a Nikon body last > January and the new and first out Nikon mirrorless Z6, Z7 were just out > and were getting a ton of exposure. An innovated forward looking light > hearted person would have gone that route. Not me like you were saying > Nikon is a day one with mirrorless and the last thing I'm going to do is > invest some big change into a first out. Turns out I was wrong these > cameras worked out perfectly and paved the way for the recent release the > DX cropped format Z50 which would really save my on Tylenol and Aleve > bills. (this is not a product endorsement) > I still say avoid first outs. And the D50 is not a first out. And its > cheap and lightweight and compact as all get out. And that tiny feather > weight zoom lens it often comes with is a near pancake could do me fine > for years. > > > > > -- > > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > > ?On 2/14/20, 12:45 PM, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG" > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > > Peter and Howard have been having a debate on Nikon ( specifically) Z6 > camera progress to replacing all DSLR with Mirrorless models. > > A different perspective.... > First the interchange..... > The loan program shows how desperate Nikon is to convince Nikon users to > move from DSLRs to the EVF models. The latter are competent, as you can > see, > but I am not sure that they will be as versatile as the old mirror > prisms > on the DSLRs - especially for the flying bird photography that I do > > Now the perspective.... > The first Nikon camera to be digital was the D1 in 1999. 20 years ago. > They have done a wonderful job of improving and refining the camera(s) > since then. The first Nikon mirrorless is the Z6/7 introduced in 2018. > It > is to be understood that the Mirrorless camera has not had the > development > time and effort that the DSLR models have. Plus the business decision > to > not develop too quickly and have all your DSLR sales go to zero because > of > the "better" mirrorless model. ( incentive to NOT change or improve). > A few years ago I predicted the end of the DSLR domination. That is > becoming a fact. Manufacturing infrastructure at Nikon is predominantly > mechanically inclined employees. Mirrorless camera require > significantly > less mechanical assembly... they are basically computers with some > mechanical integration. THEY ARE INHERENTLY LESS COSTLY TO PRODUCE. > The Sony A7 caught Nikon lollygagging around.. and Nikon declared the > Sony > technology to be inferior...... never going to work as well.... Never > going > to be able to AF as well. Never going .... you fill in the final > part..... Then came the Sony A9, which made Nikon shut up. The A9 was > created to defy Nikon. Fix all the naysayers comments, especially the > Birders and teh Sports guys..... Then came the A9II which further > strengthened the Mirrorless position..... > Nikon is in no different position than they were a few years ago.. > denying > the obvious superiority of the mirrorless technology because of their > heavy > infrastructure investments on mirror-box manufacturing. > Canon has stated no new DSLR lens development. Guess the word is > received > at Canon..... go Mirrorless. > If you want a bird imaging camera, with the Nikon brand on front, it is > coming. As good as the D5 or D500. Better. Just wait a couple more > years....... maybe sooner..... > Because you ain't going to see new, high end DSLR development in the > future. Brand N or C.. Or other. > > > > Frank Filippone > BMWRed735i at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information