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Subject: [Leica] One way to justify a M10R
From: photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com (Philippe)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 16:12:44 +0100
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The question is on semantics John :-)

Amities

Philippe



> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 16:10, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a ?crit :
> 
> That is a curious question, the Sony A7Riv, Fuji GFX100 and Phase One 
> IQ4150 all have 'the same' sensor in varying sizes.  One thing that you 
> can get with larger than FF is 16bit colour....
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Philippe via LUG
> Sent: 07 February 2020 15:07
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Philippe
> Subject: Re: [Leica] One way to justify a M10R
> 
> Keep to my questions Mark please ;-)
> 
> Is a FF M digital a cropped medium format sensor?
> 
> Or alternately, is a medium format sensor an enlargment of a full frame?
> 
> Should the answer to either question be yes, then I might agree that an 
> APS-C is cropped. 
> 
> Else, and since we use lenses that match the formats, they are all full 
> frame, and lose nothing on the edges.
> 
> Amities
> 
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a ?crit :
>> 
>> Well if a medium format 60x60mm camera has an 80mm lens on it that lens 
>> is not a telephoto lens like it is on a 35mm camera. Its a standard 
>> normal for medium format film square!  No cropping comes into play. (The 
>> diagonal of 60x60mm is pretty close to 80mm.)
>> Digital medium formats are a tad smaller than film medium formats cameras 
>> so they cost less than a million dollars. And more people buy them.
>> But with this gorgeous to die for GFX100 I am overwhelmed by the idea of 
>> shooting with over a hundred megepixies!
>> But maybe I should really be overwhelmed by the fact that it's made with 
>> physically way bigger sized medium format sensor? (33 ? 44mm)
>> A combination of both would be the smart opinion. I'd both be right!
>> Costing only $9,999.00 here in New York!  
>> And you though you'd have to spend ten grand for a medium format digital 
>> camera!?
>> -- 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> ?On 2/7/20, 8:06 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>> 
>>   Would you call use of the GFX100 enlarging ?  ;-)
>> 
>>   http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=GFX100&terms=GFX100 
>> <http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=GFX100&terms=GFX100>
>> 
>> 
>>   Amities
>> 
>>   Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 14:02, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a ?crit 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I don?t know Frank an APS-C sensor gets called a cropped sensor.
>>> As you think you have new longer lens bringing you in closer but all 
>>> you're doing is cropping.
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
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