[Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

I agree with not trusting my files to the cloud. They are fluffy and subject 
to quick variations of atmospheric pressure and humidity.
I'd use them for back up though.
I like them right where next to my router on my literal desktop.
I'm getting two new ones this last week of the year to replace them with. 
They will become backups.
The new ones may be solid state and or Thunderbird. I do have some money 
saved up to get something a bit over average.
Then when I hit "flowers" all the flowers I ever took since I started 
shooting digital a dozen or so years ago pop up in a second.
Or any other category I ever thought of an key worded.

I use Bridge and Photoshop.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 12/19/19, 12:33 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    Mark, I believe automatic tagging refers to the weaker version now 
called (again) Lightroom.
    
    My desktop version is LR Classic (formerly LR Classic CC) and keywording 
is manual, as in the good old times.
    
    OTT : I wouldn?t trust Adobe to hold my files for fear the jerrymandered 
the perimeters of their subscriptions and I lost the files to them for good.
    
    Abode?s constant change of labelling of their products is also a 
(deliberate?) constant source of confusion. 
    
    Watch twice before you subscribe. I had to change my subscription as 
soon as I discovered the flaws of LR CC now called plain vanilla LR.
    
    
    Amities
    
    Philippe
    
    
    
    > Le 19 d?c. 2019 ? 18:23, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a 
?crit :
    > 
    > Also this: (from Adobe)
    > "
    > What happens to my photos if I exceed my allotment of cloud storage?
    > If you run out of storage, your new photos will be saved only on the 
devices they came from. They?ll no longer be backed up to the cloud or 
synced across your devices, and they won?t be automatically tagged for easy 
keyword search within Lightroom. The photos you have already backed up to 
the cloud will still be accessible on all your devices.
    > If you need more storage, you can upgrade a 20GB plan to 1TB or boost 
your total storage to 2TB, 5TB, or 10TB, starting at US$9.99/month per 
terabyte. To purchase more storage, call 800-585-0774. To upgrade your 
existing plan, sign in to your Adobe ID account (Plans & Products > Manage 
plan > Switch plan). For detailed instructions, see Change your Creative 
Cloud plan.
    > "
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > -- 
    > 
    > Mark William Rabiner
    > Photographer
    > 
    > ?On 12/19/19, 12:16 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
    > 
    >    Thanks John and Philippe.
    >    Here it is!:
    >    https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom-classic.html
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >    -- 
    > 
    >    Mark William Rabiner
    >    Photographer
    > 
    >    ?On 12/19/19, 12:10 PM, "LUG on behalf of John McMaster" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of john at 
mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
    > 
    >        Yes of course you can, LR Classic is still held locally (as 
well as having many more functions than LR CC)
    > 
    >        John
    > 
    >        -----Original Message-----
    >        From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
    >        Sent: 19 December 2019 17:02
    >        To: Leica Users Group
    >        Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
    > 
    >        So really you can't use lightroom with your own hard disk you 
have to use their cloud?
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >        -- 
    > 
    >        Mark William Rabiner
    >        Photographer
    > 
    >        ?On 12/18/19, 5:54 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:
    > 
    >            LR Classic is now LR CCC - Classic but Cloud based.
    >            LR CC doesn?t work for (serious) photographers, you miss 
essential bells and whistles. 
    >            I tried it, and changed my subscription the next day to LR 
CCC.
    > 
    >            The offer may vary from country to country though.
    > 
    >            Amities
    > 
    >            Philippe
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 11:49, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a 
?crit :
    >> 
    >> No, LR Classic is still there in the photography plan (together with 
PS and LR CC)....
    >> 
    >> john
    >> 
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] 
On Behalf Of Richard Man
    >> Sent: 18 December 2019 09:13
    >> To: Leica Users Group
    >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
    >> 
    >> I have been using LR since v2. However, if you jump in now, you will 
have
    >> to get the "cloud version". It's not even so much that you are paying
    >> "Adobe tax" every year, because the software is worth the $100+ every 
year,
    >> if you can afford it. The major problem is the instability. Just do 
some
    >> web searches and you will find many stories.
    >> 
    >> Since I only use LR (and PSD), but the pre-cloud versions, and nothing
    >> else, I don't know what to recommend. Good luck.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:06 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
    >> 
    >>> In the 90's they stopped demanding the kids all go outside for 
recess and
    >>> get exercise catching baseballs and playing on the Playground 
Equipment .
    >>> They let them stay indoors all filling up the computer room all of 
them
    >>> playing with their new favorite toy. Photoshop.
    >>> None of them played computer games. They all played with Photoshop 
with
    >>> any image they could get their hands on. Mainly downloads. As did I 
in my
    >>> studio.
    >>> It was years before I photoshopped a scan from one of my own images.
    >>> endless of fun. I started staying up late at night the best Photoshop
    >>> time. Still do.
    >>> Popular with all the young photographers shooting cheap cameras. The 
ones
    >>> with the expensive camera though were not going to waste their money 
and
    >>> time on making images with expensive software.
    >>> They brought their memory cards into Walgreens.
    >>> More expensive the gear; less they care about the images which may 
come
    >>> out of them. That?s a rule you can count on!
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> --
    >>> 
    >>> Mark William Rabiner
    >>> Photographer
    >>> 
    >>> ?On 12/18/19, 1:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
    >>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
    >>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>>   Primarily, there?s software that came with your camera.
    >>> 
    >>>   Then Lightroom Classic CC (the other version is for kids on 
tablets) -
    >>> a fully integrated suite that operates quite quite intuitively.
    >>> 
    >>>   And if you want (mainly useless) horse power there?s photoshop. The
    >>> leaning curve is then hymalayasesque, and I personally gave up ?
    >>> 
    >>>   OTT depending on the camera you use, you may also sometimes get 
better
    >>> results with DXO, Capture One, On1, and a few others.
    >>> 
    >>>   Let?s say LR is the swiss knife of them all and accepts plug-ins if
    >>> needed
    >>> 
    >>>   Hope this helps
    >>> 
    >>>   Amities
    >>> 
    >>>   Philippe
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 02:24, Richard Endress via LUG <
    >>> lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit :
    >>>> 
    >>>> Hi all,
    >>>> 
    >>>> I find that the product formerly known as iPhoto, for a couple
    >>> reasons, is no longer a good fit for me.
    >>>> What software are you all using to manage your digital images?
    >>> Adobe- something? What do you recommend?
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> Richard Endress
    >>>> rendress at me.com
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
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