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Subject: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 21:57:09 +0000
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Howard, I had to get an updated version of LR when I bought my Sony A7II 
as the old one wouldn't open the files. I bought the 6.9 version on DVD 
having heard it was the last one to be in that format: all later ones 
would be on the cloud. Funnily enough I don't bother doing any editing 
with it, but use PSE 15 for that. That said my editing is harmless 
enough as I tend to used the camera viewfinder as much as possible.

Douglas


On 19/12/2019 20:07, Howard L Ritter Jr via LUG wrote:
> Douglas, that?s what I?m looking into doing instead of using PS and my own 
> folder filing system. But why do you say you?ll have to change when you 
> buy a new camera?
>
> ?howard
>
>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Yep, that's me as well. Will probably have to change when I buy a new 
>> camera.
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>>
>> On 19/12/2019 19:01, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>> Tina, I do the same.  It works for me!
>>>
>>> On 12/19/19 12:33 PM, Tina Manley via LUG wrote:
>>>> You can still use LR Classic with your own hard drives and local 
>>>> storage.
>>>> That's what I do.  LR Classic offers more features and choices than the
>>>> cloud-based regular LR.  I have no intention of switching.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
>>>> rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So really you can't use lightroom with your own hard disk you have to 
>>>>> use
>>>>> their cloud?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photographer
>>>>>
>>>>> ?On 12/18/19, 5:54 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
>>>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       LR Classic is now LR CCC - Classic but Cloud based.
>>>>>       LR CC doesn?t work for (serious) photographers, you miss 
>>>>> essential
>>>>> bells and whistles.
>>>>>       I tried it, and changed my subscription the next day to LR CCC.
>>>>>
>>>>>       The offer may vary from country to country though.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Amities
>>>>>
>>>>>       Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       > Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 11:49, John McMaster <john at 
>>>>> mcmaster.co.uk> a
>>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       > No, LR Classic is still there in the photography plan 
>>>>> (together with
>>>>> PS and LR CC)....
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       > john
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>       > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
>>>>> leica-users.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Richard Man
>>>>>       > Sent: 18 December 2019 09:13
>>>>>       > To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>       > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       > I have been using LR since v2. However, if you jump in now, 
>>>>> you will
>>>>> have
>>>>>       > to get the "cloud version". It's not even so much that you are 
>>>>> paying
>>>>>       > "Adobe tax" every year, because the software is worth the $100+
>>>>> every year,
>>>>>       > if you can afford it. The major problem is the instability. 
>>>>> Just do
>>>>> some
>>>>>       > web searches and you will find many stories.
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       > Since I only use LR (and PSD), but the pre-cloud versions, and
>>>>> nothing
>>>>>       > else, I don't know what to recommend. Good luck.
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:06 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
>>>>> rabinergroup.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       >> In the 90's they stopped demanding the kids all go outside for
>>>>> recess and
>>>>>       >> get exercise catching baseballs and playing on the Playground
>>>>> Equipment .
>>>>>       >> They let them stay indoors all filling up the computer room 
>>>>> all of
>>>>> them
>>>>>       >> playing with their new favorite toy. Photoshop.
>>>>>       >> None of them played computer games. They all played with 
>>>>> Photoshop
>>>>> with
>>>>>       >> any image they could get their hands on. Mainly downloads. As 
>>>>> did I
>>>>> in my
>>>>>       >> studio.
>>>>>       >> It was years before I photoshopped a scan from one of my own 
>>>>> images.
>>>>>       >> endless of fun. I started staying up late at night the best
>>>>> Photoshop
>>>>>       >> time. Still do.
>>>>>       >> Popular with all the young photographers shooting cheap 
>>>>> cameras.
>>>>> The ones
>>>>>       >> with the expensive camera though were not going to waste their
>>>>> money and
>>>>>       >> time on making images with expensive software.
>>>>>       >> They brought their memory cards into Walgreens.
>>>>>       >> More expensive the gear; less they care about the images 
>>>>> which may
>>>>> come
>>>>>       >> out of them. That?s a rule you can count on!
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >> --
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>>       >> Photographer
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >> ?On 12/18/19, 1:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
>>>>>       >> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on 
>>>>> behalf of
>>>>>       >> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    Primarily, there?s software that came with your camera.
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    Then Lightroom Classic CC (the other version is for kids on
>>>>> tablets) -
>>>>>       >> a fully integrated suite that operates quite quite 
>>>>> intuitively.
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    And if you want (mainly useless) horse power there?s 
>>>>> photoshop.
>>>>> The
>>>>>       >> leaning curve is then hymalayasesque, and I personally gave 
>>>>> up ?
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    OTT depending on the camera you use, you may also 
>>>>> sometimes get
>>>>> better
>>>>>       >> results with DXO, Capture One, On1, and a few others.
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    Let?s say LR is the swiss knife of them all and accepts 
>>>>> plug-ins
>>>>> if
>>>>>       >> needed
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    Hope this helps
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    Amities
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>    Philippe
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>
>>>>>       >>> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 02:24, Richard Endress via LUG <
>>>>>       >> lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit :
>>>>>       >>>
>>>>>       >>> Hi all,
>>>>>       >>>
>>>>>       >>> I find that the product formerly known as iPhoto, for a 
>>>>> couple
>>>>>       >> reasons, is no longer a good fit for me.
>>>>>       >>> What software are you all using to manage your digital 
>>>>> images?
>>>>>       >> Adobe- something? What do you recommend?
>>>>>       >>>
>>>>>       >>>
>>>>>       >>> Richard Endress
>>>>>       >>> rendress at me.com
>>>>>       >>>
>>>>>       >>>
>>>>>       >
>>>>>       >
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