Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/12/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hmmmm... I don't recall mentioning why the SL2 appeals to me. Has anyone made an unfounded assumption? Doug Herr Birdman of Sacramento http://www.wildlightphoto.com -----Original Message----- >From: Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> >Sent: Dec 10, 2019 4:20 PM >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >Subject: Re: [Leica] SL2 arrived > >If I was invested in a Sony system, I don't think I'd make the jump. Sony >is a fine system, though I don't think its lenses are at the same level as >Leica SL lenses. However, the SL system natively only goes to 280mm, and >that's Doug's "wide" lens. > >However, its viewfinder is amazing. I thought I was in 7th heaven with SL, >but SL2 kicks it up a notch. The same display panel is used in other >cameras but the optical system may or may not be the same. The focus peak >feature is better than SL, too, with both the native lens or adapted M- and >R- lenses. > >I could have saved a few thousand dollars and get similar quality images >with the Panasonic S1R. However, I've found its user interface to be a >nightmare, which is also my view of the Sony system. Also, the ease with >which I can use legacy lenses is great with the SL2, though I'd suspect >that the Panasonic body too would recognize coded M-lenses with a Leica >adapter. > >I also like the fact that the same battery can be used for SL, SL2 and Q2. > >On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 14:29, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >wrote: > >> Hi Doug, >> I would suggest you rent a Sony A7RIV before you leap back into Leica. I >> say this as both cameras are relatively equal in performance with a nod to >> the Sony for larger files, better high ISO performance and a smaller body. >> Not by much but you have a substantial investment in lenses at this point. >> I have adapted a lot of lenses to other bodies and the native mount is >> always the best; there is always some loss in the translation. >> >> Personally, I am waiting for the M11 with the higher count sensor as I >> have >> rediscovered my love for the M's and being able to walk with a widish lens >> that crops into a telephoto improves spontaneity and lightens the load on >> my shoulder. I fully recognize the burden of high MP files versus the 24 >> of an M10 but memory on multiply redundant drives is cheap compared to an >> APO Summicron or Noctilux or 21 Summilux. >> >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:58 PM Douglas Herr via LUG <lug at >> leica-users.org> >> wrote: >> >> > ARGGGHHH! >> > >> > I wish I hadn't read this! >> > >> > Doug Herr >> > Birdman of Sacramento >> > http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > >From: Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.org> >> > >Sent: Dec 9, 2019 4:19 PM >> > >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> > >Subject: [Leica] SL2 arrived >> > > >> > >So, I had been on the fence about getting an SL2. I knew I didn't >> > >"need" >> > 47 >> > >mp. I also thought the Q2 I acquired a few months ago produced >> > unbelievably >> > >fantastic results when I took it on a trip to Italy a while back, too. >> > > >> > >Yet, I put myself on a waiting list for an SL2, thinking that it won't >> be >> > >until some time next year until I receive it, and I thought I would >> > >have >> > >some time to decide whether I really wanted it or not. >> > > >> > >Well, it turned out that I got an e-mail last week that I would be >> > >receiving one soon. Panicked, I debated whether to cancel the order, >> > >but >> > >the lapse of judgment let it slip by, and a box arrived a few days >> later. >> > > >> > >I have not shot many pictures with it yet but here are a few things: >> > > >> > >The image stabilization works incredibly well, with a native SL lens, >> > >as >> > >well as a coded M lens. It even worked well with a non-ROM R lens, >> after I >> > >set the lens spec through its touch-screen UI which is extremely >> > intuitive, >> > >even better than SL. This means I'll take more hand-held pictures with >> my >> > >collection of M- and R- mount lenses. Stabilization seems to work even >> > >better than the Q2. >> > > >> > >Mounted on a tripod, it captures far more details than I can see with >> > >my >> > >very own eyes. I have recently printed a landscape taken with a Q2 to >> > >16"x24", and immediately ordered the same with 24"x36". Because the Q2 >> > >picture had to be cropped a little bit from the original, I wasn't >> > >using >> > >all the information that was captured. With the excellent 24-90, I can >> > >really use every square millimeter of the sensor. The result is >> comparable >> > >to, dare I say, 4x5. Over the weekend, I took some pictures around the >> > >Fitzgerald Marine Reserve in San Mateo County at dusk, and came home >> with >> > >stunning images, taken with 30-second exposures. >> > > >> > >With a compact prime lens, I can see it making the Q2 redundant, even >> > >if >> > Q2 >> > >is lighter than the SL2 body alone. However, the Q2 is so invisible, >> where >> > >the SL/SL2 seem so imposing. I will likely keep the Q2 to take >> snapshots, >> > >but the SL2 will probably be used more often than the SL was. >> > > >> > >With my previous Leica and non-Leica cameras, I was aware of their >> > >limitations, be it an M3, M6, M8, or a Leicaflex SL2 or even the >> > >digital >> > >SL. Now, it feels like there are no limits. >> > > >> > >The only other time I felt the same astonishment was when I tried a >> Leica >> > >M3 for the first time, after years of Japanese SLRs. Or, the time I >> tried >> > a >> > >Fazioli concert grand after decades of playing Steinways. It just felt >> > like >> > >the universe just got bigger beyond my ken. >> > > >> > >Anyone wants to buy an SL, cheap? >> > > >> > >-- >> > >Ken Iisaka >> > >first name at last name dot org or com >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Leica Users Group. >> > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> >> -- >> Don >> don.dory at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > >-- >Ken Iisaka >first name at last name dot org or com > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information