Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/08/21

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Subject: [Leica] Banned Photo
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:57:56 +0530
References: <CA+yJO1DAr66BPD+OfZTSzLgky9X+9Pe+DZ0qKdPV+ADTzURL9w@mail.gmail.com> <CA+3n+_ktNM1-KwanD8RTziSi6ccH2Gwdy111xVZWf_1yseR7oA@mail.gmail.com> <1D49CE8F-FE93-40D7-B3DB-F6487D7245D7@frozenlight.eu>

I am with Nathan on this issue. If I were running Facebook, I would err on
the side of caution under the present circumstances, every time. Besides,
in most issues, there is no absolute "good" or "bad", but just differing
points of view. We tend to forget that a basic principle of being freely
allowed to express an opinion is that others are equally freely allowed to
disagree.

Cheers
Jayanand



On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:21 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Let me contribute a bit (tiny bit) of dissent. Put your self in FB?s
> place. They are constantly under attack for spreading hate speech, sexual
> exploitation, etc. Given the sheer volume of posts, they probably cannot
> spend more than 0.5 seconds on any individual post. So if someone reported
> Tina?s photos as "naked children?, what choice does FB have? Either ignore
> the issue and risk being tarred yet again as a purveyor of kiddie porn, or
> take down the post and risk upsetting a talented artist but otherwise not
> incurring any consequences.
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> I do understand that Tina puts her images on FB because her purpose is to
> raise awareness about Honduras and to sell stock photos?and obviously FB is
> an important marketing channel for both. I am in the fortunate situation
> that I am just a hobbyist not trying to sell anything, so I do not put
> anything ?serious? on FB, mostly links to images that I am hosting
> elsewhere.
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> Cheers,
> Nathan
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> Nathan Wajsman
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> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
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> > On 22 Aug 2019, at 01:40, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Your example is why I avoid Facebook and most social media.   The AI is
> not
> > developed enough to distinguish with child pornography and documentary
> > photography showing the plight of the third world.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 2:18 PM Tina Manley via LUG <lug at 
> > leica-users.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> PESO:
> >>
> >> I was banned from Facebook for 24 hours for posting this photo which
> >> violates their Community Standards by showing "adult nudity or sexual
> >> situations"
> >>
> >> https://pbase.com/image/169664058
> >>
> >> Compared to the Leica photos posted on FB pages, this one shows less
> adult
> >> nudity or sexual situations than most!!
> >>
> >> I guess I will not post the next one on FB!!
> >>
> >> https://pbase.com/image/169664095
> >>
> >> C&C greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Tina
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tina Manley
> >> www.tinamanley.com
> >> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
> >> <
> >>
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >>>
> >> *https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html
> >> <https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html>*
> >>
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In reply to: Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Banned Photo)
Message from don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory) ([Leica] Banned Photo)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Banned Photo)