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Subject: [Leica] Pray for Hong Kong
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 00:06:15 +0100
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Richard, is protest not allowed here as well as in Hong Kong? You passed 
it on to Leo and it died a death with no explanation from either you or 
Leo. Delegation? More like abdication, methinks. Not such a low blow really.

Douglas


On 17/08/2019 20:57, Richard Man wrote:
> Douglas, just for the record (again), that all LUG photos were transferred
> to Leo. This is what I call a low blow, and this was the type of behaviors
> that made me dropped out for ~a year.
>
> Shame on you.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 4:34 AM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>
>> Good thoughts and prayers, Richard? I tried that while I waited for the
>> last Lug yearbook, but.....
>>
>> Unfortunately, for the one country, two systems future of HK, some of
>> the protestors have wandered away from the happy medium and are
>> inflaming opinion in mainland China and elsewhere. With Trump
>> effectively sidelined by the competing needs of a US/China trade deal,
>> Xi will probably crack down on the next major violent protest and send
>> in the Red Army who are parked on the border ten kilometres away. Hope
>> you have shorted all your shares.
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>> On 17/08/2019 07:30, Richard Man wrote:
>>> You may very well be right. However, that's what good thoughts and
>> prayers
>>> are for... perhaps, just perhaps...
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:17 PM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sorry to say that I am quite pessimistic. I was a child in Poland
>>>> when the Prague Spring was crushed by the Soviet Union and four other
>>>> Warsaw Pact countries in 1968, and I believe the same thing will end up
>>>> happening in Hong Kong. And just as the world did nothing then, it will
>> do
>>>> nothing now. China is too powerful, it is an ?internal matter? etc.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry?
>>>>
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>
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>>>>> On 17 Aug 2019, at 08:00, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A number of LUGgers have lived in Hong Kong, some like Howard, for many
>>>>> years. Some like Greg, occasional visitors. Many have visited.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was born in Hong Kong, and the current events fill me with
>>>> trepidation. I
>>>>> talked to my Tai Chi teacher, and he said wisely, "Water always find
>> its
>>>>> level". A very Daoist thing, be like water.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I have the resource, I will go there now, to document the events.
>>>> There
>>>>> are lots of propaganda flowing around, including hilariously that US is
>>>>> paying the protesters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, please keep up with the news. I don't know what will happen. I
>>>> hope
>>>>> the Tiananman scenario does not happen. If you are on Facebook, you can
>>>>> follow sites like Hong Kong Free Press (which is definitely very much
>> pro
>>>>> democracy and independence), or SCMP which was a very well respected
>> news
>>>>> source, but less so in recent years as it was bought by Jack Ma, the
>>>>> Alibaba founder, but it still does provide news reports without too
>> much
>>>>> bias.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without getting into politics, the current administration does not care
>>>>> about democracy in Hong Kong other than whatever fits its selfish
>> agenda.
>>>>> However, we can still call our Congress representatives. Anyway, please
>>>>> send good thoughts and hope for bloodless resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard http://imagecraft.com
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