[Leica] IMGS: B&W

[john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster)]

Have you ever shot with a CCD Monochrom Mark?  I am writing from my own 
experience using this camera and the usual B&W filters.  That is what was 
causing the issue rather than filters, I almost always have an ND on my 
Noctiluxii and there are no focus issues.

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: 06 March 2019 22:05
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W

I don?t believe in filters creating focus shift. I think it?s a myth. Over 
the decades countless people have used 60mm filters with a Noctilux and an M 
film camera and nailed their focus and shown and talked about it on the LUG. 
Some real filtration can make it so you can be shooting wide open more 
often. A dark green or red and make your image really sing... or a neutral 
density filter.  An advantage is you don?t have trouble seeing your image 
though the view finder of your camera as the dark green or whatever is only 
on the front of your lens, not in front of your eye.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 3/4/19, 6:16 PM, "LUG on behalf of Lluis Ripoll via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    I will test this as well, did you contacted Leica support about this 
issue?
    Lluis
    
    
    > El 4 mar? 2019, a les 23:29, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
escriure:
    > 
    > I tend to use wider apertures, Noctilux with a red filter and I never 
got a sharp (by f1.0 standards) shot!  Even an orange on the 21mm f3.4 
knocked focus out....
    > 
    > john
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] 
On Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
    > Sent: 04 March 2019 22:07
    > To: Leica Users Group
    > Cc: Lluis Ripoll
    > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
    > 
    > I?ve never identified this problem with the MM, thank you John!
    > Lluis
    > 
    > 
    >> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 10:39, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> 
va escriure:
    >> 
    >> Also coloured filters affect the focussing on the Monochrom, hard to 
get accurate focus with (say) a red filter.
    >> 
    >> john
    >> 
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] 
On Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
    >> Sent: 04 March 2019 00:09
    >> To: Leica Users Group
    >> Cc: Tina Manley
    >> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
    >> 
    >> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color.  I, however, 
would
    >> not use actual filters on Leica lenses.  Any glass in front of the 
lens
    >> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares.  
That's
    >> one area that I think digital is better.  Take the photo with the MM 
and
    >> apply the digital filter later.  That way you still have the
    >> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you 
want,
    >> after the fact.  I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W.
    >> 
    >> Tina
    >> 
    >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
    >> 
    >>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do 
black and
    >>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back.
    >>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once 
I see
    >>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always 
know
    >>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years 
later
    >>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the 
color when
    >>> I photoshop it again.
    >>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome 
or
    >>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in 
filters as
    >>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was 
the 060
    >>> B+W yellow green.  Is B+W  still in business it was owned by JSK 
Schneider?
    >>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the 
green
    >>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people 
in to
    >>> creatures from another planet.
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> --
    >>> 
    >>> Mark William Rabiner
    >>> Photographer
    >>> 
    >>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
    >>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
    >>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>>   PESO:
    >>> 
    >>>   I posted a few B&W's from night markets:
    >>> 
    >>>   https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023
    >>> 
    >>>   And next.
    >>> 
    >>>   I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but 
they
    >>> are
    >>>   usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W.
    >>> 
    >>>   TIA for any comments.
    >>> 
    >>>   Tina
    >>>