Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/02/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]As a space geek, this has been a fascinating insight, Brian and Frank. Thanks for sharing. Now that the interest in the Gravimeter has been cued, I wonder will anybody on the list bid for the one going for auction in a few days? Douglas On 16/02/2019 17:01, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote: > Now this is just plain funny..... > > I worked at the MIT Draper Labs, as you suggest, after graduation from > Tufts > with a BSEE. It was my first professional job, in the midst of terrible > layoffs in the field. I felt quite lucky to get a job, as the alternative > was going to be grad school. > > The group I worked with, Skipper B, provided service mostly to do with > testing gyros. I remember a small heater cabinet the size of a > refrigerator > that contained gyros from Apollo, and Gemini missions. They were > prototypes > and flight hardware. In other jobs, I tested out the suspension system of > the gyros, We tested out at a remote ( Bedford Mass) lab that had a big > spinning arm (200G's). I do remember that we had an earlier test bed in > Cambridge, in one of the MIT buildings, and we could measure the weight of > trucks going by the building by the amount of force used to keep the gyro > in > a nominal position. It was too noisy with traffic there, so the other lab > is where the serious work was done. > > At the time, we got a contract to work on the Gravimeter. Time's passage > leaves me a bit sketchy on precisely what we did..... or specifically what > I > did, but I was to work under the direction of another group's chief > scientist. He was the one who had contact with the NASA folk. I was too > lowly to be involved in such stuff. I was an analog design engineer by > training. > > That chief scientist told me the story of the Gravimeter's failure, the > negative comments by the astronauts, and the eventual failure of the > apparatus. He had met the Astronauts, and I remember being awed by such > meetings, even though it was not myself doing the hand shakes. > > I also saw the Gravimeter at the Air and Space Museum. Yes, I had the same > pride as yourself in pointing out my one moment of fame, lowly though it > was. There is a special camaraderie in the team that made these > instruments > for NASA, that 50 years later, brings up strong memories. > I stayed at MIT for about 2 years, at which time my financial situation > needed to be altered for the better.... At which time I took a commercial > job for $13,000, an improvement of $5,000. > > I remember my boss's name, but not the chief scientist... if you remember > your contacts at MIT, I might remember which I worked for...... > > Just too funny..... same project, almost 50 years ago..... > > Frank Filippone > > Red735i at verizon.net > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf > Of Brian Reid > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 7:55 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] It went to the moon! > > This both a startling coincidence and some partly faded memories. While > writing this, I think I figured out what is going on; I'll explain it at > the end. > > I spent 5 years of my life (1968-1973) working on the planning and > building of the Lunar Surface Gravimeter for Apollo 17, which was part > of ALSEP (Apollo Lunar Surface Experiment Package). It was a research > project of Dr. Joseph Weber of the University of Maryland, where I was > employed. Dr Weber was trying to detect gravity waves, and he proposed > to put one gravimeter on the moon and another on earth and look for > events in which both instruments saw the same gravity disturbances. > > A gravimeter is basically a very sensitive scale with a fixed weight > made of tungsten. If the scale shows a change in weight, and the thing > you're weighing hasn't changed, then obviously gravity has changed. They > were invented in the 1930s for oil exploration, and are still in use for > that purpose. > > The actual gravimeter portion of the LSG was built by Lacoste and > Romberg Inc of Austin Texas. It has since merged to form Micro G-Lacoste > Inc: http://microglacoste.com/about/ > Here is a copy of the instruction manual for it that has been preserved > by a university in Germany: > http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/geodyn/instruments/Manual_Lacoste_GDl.pdf > > We added a lot of electronics to the Lacoste and Romberg device, so it > could be used remotely. My role in the project was primarily software > and telemetry, but in 1971 I needed to fill in for an engineer whose > wife had just had their first baby, and I designed and drafted the masks > for the 3-layer round circuit board that sat at the top of the unit to > interface to the telemetry. When it came back from fab I installed it in > a prototype and helped test it. It did a great job of transmitting data > about the gravity on the 3rd floor of the Physics building at the > University of Maryland. When it went off to Houston I never saw it > again. > > The LSG was successfully taken to the moon and deployed by Eugene > Cernan. There is a description here, with a photograph of it sitting on > the surface of the moon: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Lunar_Surface_Experiments_Package#Apoll > o_17 > > Alas, it didn't work because the research engineers back at the > University of Maryland (I'll name no names here) forgot to adjust the > design to be calibrated for the moon's gravity and not the earth's > gravity, and the dynamic range of the servomotor was not enough to > compensate for this. I had participated in the calibration of the thing, > which was done by driving it up and down a mountain near Roswell, New > Mexico for about a week, taking measurements at each end of the trip. > When a gravimeter is used in oil exploration, you don't care about > absolute gravity values, you only care about changes. But when a cruise > missile is flying, it cares a lot about the absolute strength of > gravity, so the US Air Force got very involved in the calibration > process for gravimeters used in survey work; they had originally > calibrated the mountain (with pendulums) that we drove endlessly up and > down. > > Recovered memory: there were actually two gravimeters onboard Apollo 17. > The teams involved hated each other. Our LSG was part of ALSEP, the > experiment package. The main mission also included the Traverse > Gravimeter Experiment (TGE) which is described here: > https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17-TGE.html. The TGE was built by > Draper Labs, part of MIT. It rode on the back of the rover, which ALSEP > devices did not. I'm guessing that your involvement was with the TGE and > not the LSG. I know it wasn't LSG because I knew everybody on the LSG > project well, and didn't know you. I had over the years forgotten about > the second gravimeter onboard Apollo 17. Now it all comes back. > > NASA claims (https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17-TGE.html) that the TGE > was used 26 times and "delivered excellent results". I don't know any > un-official lore about it because I wasn't part of that group; in > particular, I don't know anything about it being thrown off the rover. > They were having serious problems with the rover because of a damaged > fender. > > I took my family to Washington DC for a vacation in 1994 and I was > stunned to see one of the backup LSG devices on display in the Air and > Space Museum. I was thrilled to be able to point at it through the > window and tell my children "I helped build that". > > I have no idea why I didn't take any pictures of it while I was working > on it. I had my first Leica by then (a IIIf). Mostly I took pictures of > people; I guess I didn't consider a lump of aluminum alloy to be > photogenic. > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >