Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/01/15
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apertures makes me wonder how on earth did anyone get an Image on film in
the years before Auto everything. there is to much emphasis on equipment and
not enough on content, which Photography should be about.Think about it.?
Aboriginal Art in South Australia (the one on the wall)
On Wednesday, 16 January 2019, 7:07, "lug-request at leica-users.org"
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Today's Topics:
? 1. Re: Classic trains in West Virginia (Nathan Wajsman)
? 2. Re: My usual 4 pics (Nathan Wajsman)
? 3. Re: IMG: Discarded Dolls with Leica Glass (Nathan Wajsman)
? 4. Re: [OM] IMG: An Indoor Bird (Nathan Wajsman)
? 5. Re: Frigate Birds (Nathan Wajsman)
? 6. Re: [OM] Ancient Sicilian Greek pottery (Nathan Wajsman)
? 7. Re: Frigate Birds (Jayanand Govindaraj)
? 8. Re: [OM] IMG: An Indoor Bird (Jim Nichols)
? 9. Re: [OM] Ancient Sicilian Greek pottery (Jayanand Govindaraj)
? 10. Re: Monday misc. (Nathan Wajsman)
? 11. Re: Frigate Birds (Nathan Wajsman)
? 12. Re: Frigate Birds (Jayanand Govindaraj)
? 13. Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY (Philippe)
? 14. Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY (Mark Rabiner)
? 15. Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY (Mark Rabiner)
? 16. Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY (Jayanand Govindaraj)
? 17. Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY (Mark Rabiner)
? 18. Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY (Philippe)
? 19. Re: IMG: First Film Developed in Six Years (Alan Magayne-Roshak)
? 20. Re: Highlands PAW 01 (John McMaster)
? 21. Re: Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses?
? ? ? Adapters? (Tina Manley)
? 22. Re: Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses?
? ? ? Adapters? (Tina Manley)
? 23. WAS Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again NOW BRIAN and 1TB SD card
? ? ? (Philippe)
? 24. Re: WAS Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again NOW BRIAN and 1TB SD
? ? ? card (Mark Rabiner)
? 25. Re: Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses?
? ? ? Adapters? (James Handsfield)
? 26. Re: Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses?
? ? ? Adapters? (John McMaster)
? 27. Re: Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses?
? ? ? Adapters? (James Handsfield)
? 28. IMG: FlightAware (Jim Nichols)
? 29. Re: Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses?
? ? ? Adapters? (Sonny Carter)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:57:41 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Classic trains in West Virginia
Message-ID: <D46C56A5-5F18-4644-948A-F999C4938062 at frozenlight.eu>
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All are nice but I like the old station building in Elkins best.
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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YNWA
> On 6 Jan 2019, at 17:17, CartersXRd via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
> A side attraction to a recent trip to West Virginia was stumbling across
> lots of classic trains, including Ole No. 7 that once lived in Washington
> NC's Haven's Gardens. Hit the link to see 45 train photos, click on any of
> them to fit them to your screen.
>
> <http://2018.cartersxrd.net/PhotosTrains/west-virgina-antique-trains.html>
>
> Ric Carter
> www.CartersXRd.net
> http://www.facebook.com/ric.carter
>
> ?When you don?t shoot color, you don?t have to worry about color.? ? Jay
> Hunter
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:59:04 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] My usual 4 pics
Message-ID: <5A83CDB4-9DBB-4836-B713-5EC6C0790408 at frozenlight.eu>
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The first and last are my favourites.
Un abrazo,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
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YNWA
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 02:32, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
> Eye contact (This was in a Christmas market in Barcelona)
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2018F120406.jpg.html>
> Leica MP, Elmarit 28 asph, Ilford HP5, D-76
>
> The pigeon?s woman
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2018F120432.jpg.html>
> Leica MP, Summilux 50 V2, Ilford HP5, D-76
>
> Coffee Passion
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2018F120628.jpg.html>
> Leica MP, Summilux 50 V2, Ilford FP4 E.I. 100, D-76
>
> Reflection #2
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2018F120508.jpg.html>
> Leica MP, Summilux 35 pre, Ilford FP4 E.I. 100, D-76
>
> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:01:56 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Discarded Dolls with Leica Glass
Message-ID: <731A5BFD-05EB-4735-B3DA-8EF307B35D00 at frozenlight.eu>
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Well seen! There is something sad about an image like this.
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
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<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
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YNWA
> On 2 Jan 2019, at 22:37, Alan Magayne-Roshak <amr3 at uwmalumni.com> wrote:
>
> Saw this today as I was driving through the alley.
>
> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Enigmatic/20190102_MR_Dolls.jpg.html
>>
>
> 35mm f/2 Summicron at f/8
> Can be viewed large.
> -
> Alan
>
> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services
> (Retired)
> UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978
> UPAA Master of the Profession 2014
> amr3 at uwm.edu
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/
>
> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate
> for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:04:49 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: "LUG at Leica-Users.org" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] IMG: An Indoor Bird
Message-ID: <5FAA5FCF-013A-419E-B656-F1E256412BBA at frozenlight.eu>
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Perfect exposure and composition!
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
<http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
YNWA
> On 1 Jan 2019, at 18:26, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>
> Looking for an easy subject on the first day of January, I settled for
> this indoor bird.? This image is uncropped, from the X-T2 and 18-55.
>
> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20190101-DSCF0700.jpg.html
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you.
>
> --
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
> --
> _________________________________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:08:30 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Frigate Birds
Message-ID: <FCF927A6-9210-4D2A-B596-232805038451 at frozenlight.eu>
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Outstanding, especially the first juvenile and the adult with the orange
sack.
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
<http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
YNWA
> On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:47, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
> leica-users.org> wrote:
>
> The next installment of the fauna of the Galapagos.
>
> Frigate Birds are the pirates of the skies, adept at stealing food from
> other birds on the wing either directly, or by harassing them till they
> regurgitate food that they are bringing back to the next. The only Frigate
> Bird breeding grounds that we saw was on North Seymour Island, though they
> are in the skies pretty much anywhere. The two sub species that breed here
> are the Magnificent Frigatebird and the Great Frigatebird, and are quite
> tough to tell apart. I have attempted to do so, but could be
> comprehensively wrong in the identification. So, bear with me on that one!
>
> Juveniles:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3030.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-2714.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3134.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3194.jpg.html
>
> Adults:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3151.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3224.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7006.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6693.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7016.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6874.jpg.html
>
> Please see LARGE
>
> Comments and criticism, as ever, welcome!
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:13:37 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: lug <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] Ancient Sicilian Greek pottery
Message-ID: <D1536D99-1070-4D1B-9DBA-E58ABFFFBD25 at frozenlight.eu>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii
In a similar vein, I posted a photo of a 17th century painting from Valencia
cathedral last week, with a very well-endowed Virgin Mary offering her
breast (nipple and all) to baby Jesus. So far it has remained accessible,
after about a week :-)
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
<http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
YNWA
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:33, Peter Klein <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> In Agrigento, site of an ancient Greek settlement in Sicily, we saw many
> examples of ancient pottery depicting domestic, religious and civic scenes
> from about 2400 years ago. Because of differences in attitudes towards
> display of the human body then vs. now, I was forced to add a modern
> fig-leaf to the version you can see here on flickr, lest I risk my entire
> body of work being deemed X-rated by some present-day Puritan.? For this,
> I apologize to both you and the ancient artist.
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at
> N04/31655949187/in/dateposted-public/>
>
> However, all is not lost. You can see the original, un-bowdlerized
> versions of the above, and nine more Grecian urns here:
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/AgrigentoGreekPottery/>
> Click on the images to see bigger, and on the double rectangle centered
> above the photos to see them full-size.
>
> Olympus E-M5 and Panasonic 40/1.7. We were rushed through the exhibit
> because we were behind schedule. Even so, I felt like the ancient artists
> were telling me something about life back then.? I hope you'll see it, too.
>
> --Peter
>
>
> --
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:44:11 +0530
From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Frigate Birds
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Nathan,
Thanks for looking.
That red gular sac is the male's breeding plumage!
Cheers
Jayanand
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:38 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:
> Outstanding, especially the first juvenile and the adult with the orange
> sack.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
>
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:47, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >
> > The next installment of the fauna of the Galapagos.
> >
> > Frigate Birds are the pirates of the skies, adept at stealing food from
> > other birds on the wing either directly, or by harassing them till they
> > regurgitate food that they are bringing back to the next. The only
> Frigate
> > Bird breeding grounds that we saw was on North Seymour Island, though
> they
> > are in the skies pretty much anywhere. The two sub species that breed
> here
> > are the Magnificent Frigatebird and the Great Frigatebird, and are quite
> > tough to tell apart. I have attempted to do so, but could be
> > comprehensively wrong in the identification. So, bear with me on that
> one!
> >
> > Juveniles:
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3030.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-2714.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3134.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3194.jpg.html
> >
> > Adults:
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3151.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3224.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7006.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6693.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7016.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6874.jpg.html
> >
> > Please see LARGE
> >
> > Comments and criticism, as ever, welcome!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 00:19:21 -0600
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] IMG: An Indoor Bird
Message-ID: <a081b2eb-6a0b-36db-6773-aa55f4e5bd37 at lighttube.net>
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Thanks,? Nathan.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
On 1/15/2019 12:04 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Perfect exposure and composition!
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
>
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 1 Jan 2019, at 18:26, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>
>> Looking for an easy subject on the first day of January, I settled for
>> this indoor bird.? This image is uncropped, from the X-T2 and 18-55.
>>
>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20190101-DSCF0700.jpg.html
>>
>> HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>> --
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus
>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/
>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/
>>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:49:30 +0530
From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] Ancient Sicilian Greek pottery
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I blissfully give the Puritans a taste of nature working on the next
generation, now and then! Not that many acknowledge it.....
I wonder why we have been indoctrinated to view something so natural and
critical to any species as something shameful and full of guilt? A power
play by religion to control the great unwashed?
Cheers
Jayanand
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:
> In a similar vein, I posted a photo of a 17th century painting from
> Valencia cathedral last week, with a very well-endowed Virgin Mary offering
> her breast (nipple and all) to baby Jesus. So far it has remained
> accessible, after about a week :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
>
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:33, Peter Klein <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > In Agrigento, site of an ancient Greek settlement in Sicily, we saw many
> examples of ancient pottery depicting domestic, religious and civic scenes
> from about 2400 years ago. Because of differences in attitudes towards
> display of the human body then vs. now, I was forced to add a modern
> fig-leaf to the version you can see here on flickr, lest I risk my entire
> body of work being deemed X-rated by some present-day Puritan.? For this, I
> apologize to both you and the ancient artist.
> > <
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at
> N04/31655949187/in/dateposted-public/
> >
> >
> > However, all is not lost. You can see the original, un-bowdlerized
> versions of the above, and nine more Grecian urns here:
> > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/AgrigentoGreekPottery/>
> > Click on the images to see bigger, and on the double rectangle centered
> above the photos to see them full-size.
> >
> > Olympus E-M5 and Panasonic 40/1.7. We were rushed through the exhibit
> because we were behind schedule. Even so, I felt like the ancient artists
> were telling me something about life back then.? I hope you'll see it, too.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus
> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/
> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/
> >
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:36:40 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Monday misc.
Message-ID: <3E9AFB62-0300-4D73-99E5-F7E862E4AA84 at frozenlight.eu>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8
Love it! Reminds me of when I lived in Gainesville, FL in the 1980s. There
was a house on the ?wrong side of the tracks? whose owner went all out with
his outdoor decorations. There was a veritable traffic jam in the low-rent
neighborhood every Christmas.
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
<http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
YNWA
> On 7 Jan 2019, at 16:47, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
> Greetings in the western new year.? Today's image is a slight look back to
> last year.? One of my Austin neighbors just took down their Christmas
> decorations and I thought their eclectic design might amuse the group.
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/don_dory_gmail_com/Monday+Misc/Nativity+mayhem.jpg.html
>
> All the best.
>
> --
> Don
> don.dory at gmail.com
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:37:42 +0100
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Frigate Birds
Message-ID: <5B8BF3E1-3677-4164-A8A4-ED8A2C1ABF3E at frozenlight.eu>
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Flying around with an erection! No inhibitions there ;-)
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
<http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
YNWA
> On 15 Jan 2019, at 07:14, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
> leica-users.org> wrote:
>
> Nathan,
> Thanks for looking.
>
> That red gular sac is the male's breeding plumage!
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:38 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> Outstanding, especially the first juvenile and the adult with the orange
>> sack.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>>
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>
>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>
>> YNWA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:47, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> The next installment of the fauna of the Galapagos.
>>>
>>> Frigate Birds are the pirates of the skies, adept at stealing food from
>>> other birds on the wing either directly, or by harassing them till they
>>> regurgitate food that they are bringing back to the next. The only
>> Frigate
>>> Bird breeding grounds that we saw was on North Seymour Island, though
>> they
>>> are in the skies pretty much anywhere. The two sub species that breed
>> here
>>> are the Magnificent Frigatebird and the Great Frigatebird, and are quite
>>> tough to tell apart. I have attempted to do so, but could be
>>> comprehensively wrong in the identification. So, bear with me on that
>> one!
>>>
>>> Juveniles:
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3030.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-2714.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3134.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3194.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Adults:
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3151.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3224.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7006.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6693.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7016.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6874.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Please see LARGE
>>>
>>> Comments and criticism, as ever, welcome!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:56:03 +0530
From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Frigate Birds
Message-ID: <8316F023-1009-4980-98FA-604343B9A1EF at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii
No, and the twigs are a token offering to the female of his dreams to urge
her to get the nest started....
Cheers
Jayanand
Sent from my iPad
> On 15-Jan-2019, at 12:07, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>
> Flying around with an erection! No inhibitions there ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
>
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 15 Jan 2019, at 07:14, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>
>> Nathan,
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>> That red gular sac is the male's breeding plumage!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:38 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Outstanding, especially the first juvenile and the adult with the orange
>>> sack.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>
>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:47, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The next installment of the fauna of the Galapagos.
>>>>
>>>> Frigate Birds are the pirates of the skies, adept at stealing food from
>>>> other birds on the wing either directly, or by harassing them till they
>>>> regurgitate food that they are bringing back to the next. The only
>>> Frigate
>>>> Bird breeding grounds that we saw was on North Seymour Island, though
>>> they
>>>> are in the skies pretty much anywhere. The two sub species that breed
>>> here
>>>> are the Magnificent Frigatebird and the Great Frigatebird, and are quite
>>>> tough to tell apart. I have attempted to do so, but could be
>>>> comprehensively wrong in the identification. So, bear with me on that
>>> one!
>>>>
>>>> Juveniles:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3030.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-2714.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3134.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3194.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> Adults:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3151.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181125-3224.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7006.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6693.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-7016.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/Galapagos/Galapagos/Galapagos-20181130-6874.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> Please see LARGE
>>>>
>>>> Comments and criticism, as ever, welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:28:28 +0100
From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY
Message-ID: <6A5C09D3-BA02-4B6F-A8D1-720F4A102EE8 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8
Video?
Amities
Philippe
> Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 05:21, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
> leica-users.org> a ?crit :
>
> Going away from rated numbers, the XQD is far superior to the SD UHS II
> cards, both in terms of shooting speed and buffering. In my experience, the
> D500 can go up to 170 shots in RAW 12 bit uncompressed mode with the Sony G
> series XQD cards, and 70 odd shots with the SanDisk SD UHS II cards before
> the buffer fills up. It should really not affect anyone who is not into
> long bursts, and if you are taking single shots or short bursts, why waste
> money on these cards when the SD UHS I cards will be more than sufficient?
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:23 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry Mark your read and write speeds for you new XQD cards are? 440 MB/s,
>> not 200 as you thought you remembered.
>> Other Mark.
>>
>> Thanks Other Mark! My other slot has a more traditional SD card but a real
>> fast and large one:
>> SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card
>> MFR # SDSDXPK-128G-ANCIN
>> Its 300 MB/s whole the XQD card in the other slot is 400 MB/s. Comparable
>> but not comparable technologies.
>> Interestingly the Sandisk SD card cost 50 bucks more than the faster and
>> almost same sized XQD Sony. ?!?
>> The sony is a 120gb. The Sandisk is a 128gb.
>> I think XQD cards being? sold are lonely. People are not ready to accept
>> them yet. They think they are upstarts.
>> Or they are too cheap to have to buy a new reader.
>> My XQD card I use now is this:? Sony 120GB G Series XQD Memory Card? MFR #
>> QD-G120F
>>
>> The files I?m shooting now are forty something megebites?s each and are a
>> smaller than typical 20 megapixels. Typical being I think 24 megapixels.
>> The 20 megapixels spec is always used in the Leica priced D5 announced the
>> same day three years ago, January.
>>
>> Rabs
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>>
>> ?On 1/14/19, 9:05 PM, "LUG on behalf of Mark Rabiner" <lug-bounces+mark=
>> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>? ? I had to get a reader to read the XQD card both the reader and the
>> card are made by Sony. Cost around 75 bucks I think.
>>? ? The second slot in the reader takes SSDs cards but real fast ones like
>> the other card a fast and big? Sandisk I got for my new D500 Nikon Camera.
>>? ? My new cards are 200 fast while the ones in my D750 were 95. So it's
>> almost as much of a whole new ballgame in that respect.
>>
>>? ? I'm trying to wrap my head around the developing technologies? for
>> storage in cameras the SD and compact flash is a twenty year old
>> technology. It seems people think that flash and SSD solid state drives
>> are
>> the same but it just ain't true. I just read a big thing to try to figure
>> it all out.
>>
>> https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/flash-vs-ssd-storage-whats-the-difference.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>? ? --
>>
>>? ? Mark William Rabiner
>>? ? Photographer
>>
>>? ? ?On 1/14/19, 6:08 PM, "LUG on behalf of Brian Reid" <lug-bounces+mark=
>> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of reid at
>> mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>? ? ? ? That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive,
>> designed
>>? ? ? ? to go into laptop and server computers.
>>
>>? ? ? ? On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen to
>> death
>>> before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
>>>
>> https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
>>> <
>> https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
>>>
>>
>>? ? ? ? _______________________________________________
>>? ? ? ? Leica Users Group.
>>? ? ? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
>> information
>>
>>
>>
>>? ? _______________________________________________
>>? ? Leica Users Group.
>>? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 03:42:57 -0500
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY
Message-ID: <D5102A59-012E-42F4-828F-42CD9C7916FB at rabinergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"
Because you're never going to be a long burst shooter if you never had the
capability to try it.
and I was this time willing to make a change and make sure my cards were as
good as the camera I was saving up for.
And the idea of a camera which can do what I really don?t need it to do
appeals to me.
--
Mark William Rabiner
Photographer
?On 1/14/19, 11:21 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG"
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at
leica-users.org> wrote:
? ? Going away from rated numbers, the XQD is far superior to the SD UHS II
? ? cards, both in terms of shooting speed and buffering. In my experience,
the
? ? D500 can go up to 170 shots in RAW 12 bit uncompressed mode with the
Sony G
? ? series XQD cards, and 70 odd shots with the SanDisk SD UHS II cards
before
? ? the buffer fills up. It should really not affect anyone who is not into
? ? long bursts, and if you are taking single shots or short bursts, why
waste
? ? money on these cards when the SD UHS I cards will be more than
sufficient?
? ?
? ? Cheers
? ? Jayanand
? ?
? ? On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:23 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
wrote:
? ?
? ? > Sorry Mark your read and write speeds for you new XQD cards are? 440
MB/s,
? ? > not 200 as you thought you remembered.
? ? > Other Mark.
? ? >
? ? > Thanks Other Mark! My other slot has a more traditional SD card but a
real
? ? > fast and large one:
? ? > SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card
? ? > MFR # SDSDXPK-128G-ANCIN
? ? > Its 300 MB/s whole the XQD card in the other slot is 400 MB/s.
Comparable
? ? > but not comparable technologies.
? ? > Interestingly the Sandisk SD card cost 50 bucks more than the faster
and
? ? > almost same sized XQD Sony. ?!?
? ? > The sony is a 120gb. The Sandisk is a 128gb.
? ? > I think XQD cards being? sold are lonely. People are not ready to
accept
? ? > them yet. They think they are upstarts.
? ? > Or they are too cheap to have to buy a new reader.
? ? > My XQD card I use now is this:? Sony 120GB G Series XQD Memory Card?
MFR #
? ? > QD-G120F
? ? >
? ? > The files I?m shooting now are forty something megebites?s each and
are a
? ? > smaller than typical 20 megapixels. Typical being I think 24
megapixels.
? ? > The 20 megapixels spec is always used in the Leica priced D5 announced
the
? ? > same day three years ago, January.
? ? >
? ? > Rabs
? ? > Mark William Rabiner
? ? > Photographer
? ? >
? ? > ?On 1/14/19, 9:05 PM, "LUG on behalf of Mark Rabiner"
<lug-bounces+mark=
? ? > rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of mark at
rabinergroup.com>
? ? > wrote:
? ? >
? ? >? ? I had to get a reader to read the XQD card both the reader and the
? ? > card are made by Sony. Cost around 75 bucks I think.
? ? >? ? The second slot in the reader takes SSDs cards but real fast ones
like
? ? > the other card a fast and big? Sandisk I got for my new D500 Nikon
Camera.
? ? >? ? My new cards are 200 fast while the ones in my D750 were 95. So it's
? ? > almost as much of a whole new ballgame in that respect.
? ? >
? ? >? ? I'm trying to wrap my head around the developing technologies? for
? ? > storage in cameras the SD and compact flash is a twenty year old
? ? > technology. It seems people think that flash and SSD solid state
drives are
? ? > the same but it just ain't true. I just read a big thing to try to
figure
? ? > it all out.
? ? >
? ? >
https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/flash-vs-ssd-storage-whats-the-difference.html
? ? >
? ? >
? ? >
? ? >
? ? >? ? --
? ? >
? ? >? ? Mark William Rabiner
? ? >? ? Photographer
? ? >
? ? >? ? ?On 1/14/19, 6:08 PM, "LUG on behalf of Brian Reid"
<lug-bounces+mark=
? ? > rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of reid at
mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
? ? > wrote:
? ? >
? ? >? ? ? ? That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive,
? ? > designed
? ? >? ? ? ? to go into laptop and server computers.
? ? >
? ? >? ? ? ? On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
? ? >? ? ? ? >
? ? >? ? ? ? >
? ? >? ? ? ? > OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen
to
? ? > death
? ? >? ? ? ? > before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
? ? >? ? ? ? >
? ? >
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? >? ? ? ? > <
? ? >
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? > >
? ? >
? ? >? ? ? ? _______________________________________________
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 04:01:09 -0500
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY
Message-ID: <9E3E55A3-D85B-4052-9F67-724552830B83 at rabinergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"
I think you're right the XQD card is there for video more than sequences but
I'm not rushing into video right at the beginning. When I do and I'm
shooting 4k video I guess the card I use for that will be the Sony XQD and
the "stills" with the Sandisk SDXC. They give you a card the speed of my
D750 which are much slower I think 96 G/per second.
--
Mark William Rabiner
Photographer
?On 1/15/19, 2:28 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at
leica-users.org> wrote:
? ? Video?
? ?
? ? Amities
? ?
? ? Philippe
? ?
? ?
? ?
? ? > Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 05:21, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
leica-users.org> a ?crit :
? ? >
? ? > Going away from rated numbers, the XQD is far superior to the SD UHS II
? ? > cards, both in terms of shooting speed and buffering. In my
experience, the
? ? > D500 can go up to 170 shots in RAW 12 bit uncompressed mode with the
Sony G
? ? > series XQD cards, and 70 odd shots with the SanDisk SD UHS II cards
before
? ? > the buffer fills up. It should really not affect anyone who is not into
? ? > long bursts, and if you are taking single shots or short bursts, why
waste
? ? > money on these cards when the SD UHS I cards will be more than
sufficient?
? ? >
? ? > Cheers
? ? > Jayanand
? ? >
? ? > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:23 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
? ? >
? ? >> Sorry Mark your read and write speeds for you new XQD cards are? 440
MB/s,
? ? >> not 200 as you thought you remembered.
? ? >> Other Mark.
? ? >>
? ? >> Thanks Other Mark! My other slot has a more traditional SD card but a
real
? ? >> fast and large one:
? ? >> SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card
? ? >> MFR # SDSDXPK-128G-ANCIN
? ? >> Its 300 MB/s whole the XQD card in the other slot is 400 MB/s.
Comparable
? ? >> but not comparable technologies.
? ? >> Interestingly the Sandisk SD card cost 50 bucks more than the faster
and
? ? >> almost same sized XQD Sony. ?!?
? ? >> The sony is a 120gb. The Sandisk is a 128gb.
? ? >> I think XQD cards being? sold are lonely. People are not ready to
accept
? ? >> them yet. They think they are upstarts.
? ? >> Or they are too cheap to have to buy a new reader.
? ? >> My XQD card I use now is this:? Sony 120GB G Series XQD Memory Card?
MFR #
? ? >> QD-G120F
? ? >>
? ? >> The files I?m shooting now are forty something megebites?s each and
are a
? ? >> smaller than typical 20 megapixels. Typical being I think 24
megapixels.
? ? >> The 20 megapixels spec is always used in the Leica priced D5
announced the
? ? >> same day three years ago, January.
? ? >>
? ? >> Rabs
? ? >> Mark William Rabiner
? ? >> Photographer
? ? >>
? ? >> ?On 1/14/19, 9:05 PM, "LUG on behalf of Mark Rabiner"
<lug-bounces+mark=
? ? >> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of mark at
rabinergroup.com>
? ? >> wrote:
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? I had to get a reader to read the XQD card both the reader and the
? ? >> card are made by Sony. Cost around 75 bucks I think.
? ? >>? ? The second slot in the reader takes SSDs cards but real fast ones
like
? ? >> the other card a fast and big? Sandisk I got for my new D500 Nikon
Camera.
? ? >>? ? My new cards are 200 fast while the ones in my D750 were 95. So
it's
? ? >> almost as much of a whole new ballgame in that respect.
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? I'm trying to wrap my head around the developing technologies? for
? ? >> storage in cameras the SD and compact flash is a twenty year old
? ? >> technology. It seems people think that flash and SSD solid state
drives are
? ? >> the same but it just ain't true. I just read a big thing to try to
figure
? ? >> it all out.
? ? >>
? ? >>
https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/flash-vs-ssd-storage-whats-the-difference.html
? ? >>
? ? >>
? ? >>
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? --
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? Mark William Rabiner
? ? >>? ? Photographer
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? ?On 1/14/19, 6:08 PM, "LUG on behalf of Brian Reid"
<lug-bounces+mark=
? ? >> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of reid at
mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
? ? >> wrote:
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? ? ? That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive,
? ? >> designed
? ? >>? ? ? ? to go into laptop and server computers.
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? ? ? On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>> OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen to
? ? >> death
? ? >>> before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
? ? >>>
? ? >>
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? >>> <
? ? >>
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? >>>
? ? >>
? ? >>? ? ? ? _______________________________________________
? ? >>? ? ? ? Leica Users Group.
? ? >>? ? ? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
? ? >> information
? ? >>
? ? >>
? ? >>
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? ? >>? ? Leica Users Group.
? ? >>? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
information
? ? >>
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? ? >>
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? ? >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
? ? >
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:45:36 +0530
From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY
Message-ID: <41721D65-A1CF-4AC3-B4DE-16D8521988A6 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8
Yes, true, but video is hardly the point of the D500. Its an
action/spirts/wildlife stills speed freak, a one trick pony, but
indispensable if that just happens to be your trick. I advise regular
photographers here, all day long, to get a D750 if they do not require raw
speed....
Cheers
Jayanand
Sent from my iPad
> On 15-Jan-2019, at 12:58, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
> Video?
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
>> Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 05:21, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
>> leica-users.org> a ?crit :
>>
>> Going away from rated numbers, the XQD is far superior to the SD UHS II
>> cards, both in terms of shooting speed and buffering. In my experience,
>> the
>> D500 can go up to 170 shots in RAW 12 bit uncompressed mode with the Sony
>> G
>> series XQD cards, and 70 odd shots with the SanDisk SD UHS II cards before
>> the buffer fills up. It should really not affect anyone who is not into
>> long bursts, and if you are taking single shots or short bursts, why waste
>> money on these cards when the SD UHS I cards will be more than sufficient?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:23 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry Mark your read and write speeds for you new XQD cards are? 440
>>> MB/s,
>>> not 200 as you thought you remembered.
>>> Other Mark.
>>>
>>> Thanks Other Mark! My other slot has a more traditional SD card but a
>>> real
>>> fast and large one:
>>> SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card
>>> MFR # SDSDXPK-128G-ANCIN
>>> Its 300 MB/s whole the XQD card in the other slot is 400 MB/s. Comparable
>>> but not comparable technologies.
>>> Interestingly the Sandisk SD card cost 50 bucks more than the faster and
>>> almost same sized XQD Sony. ?!?
>>> The sony is a 120gb. The Sandisk is a 128gb.
>>> I think XQD cards being? sold are lonely. People are not ready to accept
>>> them yet. They think they are upstarts.
>>> Or they are too cheap to have to buy a new reader.
>>> My XQD card I use now is this:? Sony 120GB G Series XQD Memory Card? MFR
>>> #
>>> QD-G120F
>>>
>>> The files I?m shooting now are forty something megebites?s each and are a
>>> smaller than typical 20 megapixels. Typical being I think 24 megapixels.
>>> The 20 megapixels spec is always used in the Leica priced D5 announced
>>> the
>>> same day three years ago, January.
>>>
>>> Rabs
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photographer
>>>
>>> ?On 1/14/19, 9:05 PM, "LUG on behalf of Mark Rabiner" <lug-bounces+mark=
>>> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of mark at
>>> rabinergroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>? I had to get a reader to read the XQD card both the reader and the
>>> card are made by Sony. Cost around 75 bucks I think.
>>>? The second slot in the reader takes SSDs cards but real fast ones like
>>> the other card a fast and big? Sandisk I got for my new D500 Nikon
>>> Camera.
>>>? My new cards are 200 fast while the ones in my D750 were 95. So it's
>>> almost as much of a whole new ballgame in that respect.
>>>
>>>? I'm trying to wrap my head around the developing technologies? for
>>> storage in cameras the SD and compact flash is a twenty year old
>>> technology. It seems people think that flash and SSD solid state drives
>>> are
>>> the same but it just ain't true. I just read a big thing to try to figure
>>> it all out.
>>>
>>> https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/flash-vs-ssd-storage-whats-the-difference.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>? --
>>>
>>>? Mark William Rabiner
>>>? Photographer
>>>
>>>? ?On 1/14/19, 6:08 PM, "LUG on behalf of Brian Reid" <lug-bounces+mark=
>>> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of reid at
>>> mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>? ? ? That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive,
>>> designed
>>>? ? ? to go into laptop and server computers.
>>>
>>>>? ? ? On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen to
>>> death
>>>> before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
>>>>
>>> https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
>>>> <
>>> https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
>>>>
>>>
>>>? ? ? _______________________________________________
>>>? ? ? Leica Users Group.
>>>? ? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
>>> information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>? _______________________________________________
>>>? Leica Users Group.
>>>? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 05:29:21 -0500
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY
Message-ID: <C768992F-97E9-442C-8801-EBF8C5B336E3 at rabinergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"
Been shooting? exclusively with a D750 for exactly three years, Jayanand.
Getting results with it which no camera I've ever used can match. It focuses
in the dark and then the pix come out noise free hand held stopped down.
Though it's is kind of not fast and a little laid back..? I'm was calling my
new D500 a backup camera as the term "backup camera" can mean anything you
want it to mean at this point. I think my work will shift to more faster
breaking based stuff with this camera we'll just have to see.?
I'll sure not be afraid of being in fast breaking situations. I think it
will be propelling me down the sidewalk!
The D750 by the time I pick it up again I'll have to remind myself how to
use it - maybe I should take the battery out? Maybe the D750 will end up
being the backup? Perhaps it's nice having two cameras at the same time
neither of them an embarrassment.? Maybe it's nice using two cameras at the
same time and which are not matched??
I notice they make these two camera camera straps now and saw a guy using
one in Central Park a few weeks back.
You could have color in one black and white in the other. A thing a digital
Leica M shooter could really do!
I'd have my 12-24f4 DX on my D500 and my 70-200f4 FX VR on my D750. And be
ready for instantly anything
And I've had the D500 for a few weeks now and have not done one shot at ISO
1,000,00 (one million).
That and glass plates are on my bucket list.
I'm sure it will come out very "Sunday in the Park with George" (big dots).
Pointillisme Philippe!
Maybe it will look good in a nice size print?
You know what Man Ray said. "Noise is the brush stroke of digital
Photography".?
No he didn't he was dead by then.
--
Mark William Rabiner
Photographer
?On 1/15/19, 4:15 AM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG"
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at
leica-users.org> wrote:
? ? Yes, true, but video is hardly the point of the D500. Its an
action/spirts/wildlife stills speed freak, a one trick pony, but
indispensable if that just happens to be your trick. I advise regular
photographers here, all day long, to get a D750 if they do not require raw
speed....
? ? Cheers
? ? Jayanand
? ?
? ? Sent from my iPad
? ?
? ? > On 15-Jan-2019, at 12:58, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:
? ? >
? ? > Video?
? ? >
? ? > Amities
? ? >
? ? > Philippe
? ? >
? ? >
? ? >
? ? >> Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 05:21, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at
leica-users.org> a ?crit :
? ? >>
? ? >> Going away from rated numbers, the XQD is far superior to the SD UHS
II
? ? >> cards, both in terms of shooting speed and buffering. In my
experience, the
? ? >> D500 can go up to 170 shots in RAW 12 bit uncompressed mode with the
Sony G
? ? >> series XQD cards, and 70 odd shots with the SanDisk SD UHS II cards
before
? ? >> the buffer fills up. It should really not affect anyone who is not
into
? ? >> long bursts, and if you are taking single shots or short bursts, why
waste
? ? >> money on these cards when the SD UHS I cards will be more than
sufficient?
? ? >>
? ? >> Cheers
? ? >> Jayanand
? ? >>
? ? >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:23 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
? ? >>>
? ? >>> Sorry Mark your read and write speeds for you new XQD cards are? 440
MB/s,
? ? >>> not 200 as you thought you remembered.
? ? >>> Other Mark.
? ? >>>
? ? >>> Thanks Other Mark! My other slot has a more traditional SD card but
a real
? ? >>> fast and large one:
? ? >>> SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card
? ? >>> MFR # SDSDXPK-128G-ANCIN
? ? >>> Its 300 MB/s whole the XQD card in the other slot is 400 MB/s.
Comparable
? ? >>> but not comparable technologies.
? ? >>> Interestingly the Sandisk SD card cost 50 bucks more than the faster
and
? ? >>> almost same sized XQD Sony. ?!?
? ? >>> The sony is a 120gb. The Sandisk is a 128gb.
? ? >>> I think XQD cards being? sold are lonely. People are not ready to
accept
? ? >>> them yet. They think they are upstarts.
? ? >>> Or they are too cheap to have to buy a new reader.
? ? >>> My XQD card I use now is this:? Sony 120GB G Series XQD Memory Card?
MFR #
? ? >>> QD-G120F
? ? >>>
? ? >>> The files I?m shooting now are forty something megebites?s each and
are a
? ? >>> smaller than typical 20 megapixels. Typical being I think 24
megapixels.
? ? >>> The 20 megapixels spec is always used in the Leica priced D5
announced the
? ? >>> same day three years ago, January.
? ? >>>
? ? >>> Rabs
? ? >>> Mark William Rabiner
? ? >>> Photographer
? ? >>>
? ? >>> ?On 1/14/19, 9:05 PM, "LUG on behalf of Mark Rabiner"
<lug-bounces+mark=
? ? >>> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of mark at
rabinergroup.com>
? ? >>> wrote:
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? I had to get a reader to read the XQD card both the reader and the
? ? >>> card are made by Sony. Cost around 75 bucks I think.
? ? >>>? The second slot in the reader takes SSDs cards but real fast ones
like
? ? >>> the other card a fast and big? Sandisk I got for my new D500 Nikon
Camera.
? ? >>>? My new cards are 200 fast while the ones in my D750 were 95. So it's
? ? >>> almost as much of a whole new ballgame in that respect.
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? I'm trying to wrap my head around the developing technologies? for
? ? >>> storage in cameras the SD and compact flash is a twenty year old
? ? >>> technology. It seems people think that flash and SSD solid state
drives are
? ? >>> the same but it just ain't true. I just read a big thing to try to
figure
? ? >>> it all out.
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/flash-vs-ssd-storage-whats-the-difference.html
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? --
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? Mark William Rabiner
? ? >>>? Photographer
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? ?On 1/14/19, 6:08 PM, "LUG on behalf of Brian Reid"
<lug-bounces+mark=
? ? >>> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of reid at
mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
? ? >>> wrote:
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? ? ? That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive,
? ? >>> designed
? ? >>>? ? ? to go into laptop and server computers.
? ? >>>
? ? >>>>? ? ? On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
? ? >>>>
? ? >>>>
? ? >>>> OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen to
? ? >>> death
? ? >>>> before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
? ? >>>>
? ? >>>
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? >>>> <
? ? >>>
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? >>>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? ? ? _______________________________________________
? ? >>>? ? ? Leica Users Group.
? ? >>>? ? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
? ? >>> information
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>? _______________________________________________
? ? >>>? Leica Users Group.
? ? >>>? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>>
? ? >>> _______________________________________________
? ? >>> Leica Users Group.
? ? >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
? ? >>
? ? >> _______________________________________________
? ? >> Leica Users Group.
? ? >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
? ? >
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? ? > _______________________________________________
? ? > Leica Users Group.
? ? > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
? ?
? ? _______________________________________________
? ? Leica Users Group.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:34:34 +0100
From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] I'm A Nikon Shooter Again - MARK in HNY
Message-ID: <59C8A1DD-CC31-4183-A68B-2E39053BDBAC at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8
> Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 11:29, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a ?crit :
>
> I'm sure it will come out very "Sunday in the Park with George" (big
> dots). Pointillisme Philippe!
> Maybe it will look good in a nice size print?
> You know what Man Ray said. "Noise is the brush stroke of digital
> Photography".?
> No he didn't he was dead by then.
Or not
https://fr-fr.facebook.com/public/Man-Ray
<https://fr-fr.facebook.com/public/Man-Ray>
;-)
Ph
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:03:52 -0600
From: Alan Magayne-Roshak <amr3 at uwmalumni.com>
To: lug at leica-users.org
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Film Developed in Six Years
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>wrote:
>The window, when seen large, is amazingly good! such a gradation in tones
is both so rare and outstanding.
>And also, both soft or sharp where needed.
>Keep souping them :-)
>Amities
>Philippe, not a bit jealous of your talent at building contraptions too ;-)
===============================================================================================================
Thanks.? I remember when I first started in photography being influenced
by matched articles in a Popular Photography issue ca. 1967: "Gradation and
Tonality" and "Tonality and Gradation".
--
Alan
Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services
(Retired)
UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978
UPAA Master of the Profession 2014
amr3 at uwm.edu
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/
"All the technique in the world doesn't compensate
for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt
------------------------------
Message: 20
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:00:16 +0000
From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Highlands PAW 01
Message-ID:
??? <LO2P265MB1247A38BB6F7AA3722BB7EA5F9810 at
LO2P265MB1247.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
???
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thanks Nathan
john
-----Original Message-----
Good start! Nos. 4 and 5 for me this week.
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
<http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
<http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> On 5 Jan 2019, at 17:39, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Start of a new year....
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2019/01
>
> C & C welcome
>
> john
>
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:08:29 +0600
From: Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R
??? lenses? Adapters?
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I agree.? I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses;
however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:03 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:
> OFF TOPIC in a way, yet.
>
> From my experience, using legacy lenses on current bodies is more often
> than not a waste of time and bucks.
>
> You loose so much in terms of fringing, slow operation and hazardous
> rings, focusing wide open and then closing down, manual focusing, flare,
> distortion, ease of use, that any kit lens ( well the leica ones aren?t
> cheap I must admit ) is probably better in the field than older faithful
> and trusted ones.
>
> George of the icicles spoke of systems (lens and body). And he most
> certainly is even more right these days than when he wrote it.
>
> As a frustrated R user (R3MOT, R4, R8), I claim that Leica never lived up
> to the promise of an? ? adequate solution ? for R users and lens owners.
>
> The SL is a new system per se, and should be used as such I?m both happy
> and sorry to say.
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> > Le 14 janv. 2019 ? 18:56, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> a
> > ?crit
> :
> >
> > We will soon have more body choices to the Leica SL... the Panasonic
> body is supposed to be announced soon.? More of the Leica user base will be
> looking for these ( and other) bodies for their existing R or M optics.
> What would be helpful is to have those that have used the system for a
> while give the rest an idea of what works and what does not.
> > Several members have SL bodies, and may have adapted their M lenses or R
> lenses to the SL.? It would be very informative if members could post their
> experiences with the various combinations, especially if they have tried
> both M and R versions on their SL.
> > Some ideas......What adapter do you use that does the job?? There are 3
> possible (China adapters not included) solutions:? R-SL adapter.? R-M plus
> M to SL 2 pieces adaptation.? Novoflex R-SL adapter.? Did you experiment
> with one or another solutions and found them unsatisfactoy?? Why?
> > Yes, they all work with almost all the R lenses or M lenses, this is
> taken for granted.? Did R lenses work ?better? or ?worse? than the
> equivalent M solution?? What did you identify as the reason one was
> ?better? than the other?
> > Some long Telephoto R lenses will vignette with the use of the R to M
> adapter followed by the M to SL adapter.? ( Caused by the smaller throat of
> the M adapter compared to the R-SL direct adapter).? Use one of the 1 stage
> adapter to avoid this.? They work.
> > What anomalies have you found?? What is ?weird? when you use your older
> lenses?? What did NOT work?
> > How do you focus?? Open up lenses to max aperture and focus, then shut
> down lens to working aperture?? Do you magnify the view when focusing?? Use
> the Focus confirmation indicator?
> > Based on your personal experiences, what would be your ?wish list?
> adapter look like?? Features wanted?? R to SL or M to SL?
> > For those about to write how nice the SL native lenses work and the
> quality of images made,..... We all know native lenses are more ergonomic
> to use, and robably produce ?better? (optically) images. It is the $4-5-6K
> per lens that is the underlying point of using adapted? R or M lenses,
> which cost a small fraction ( in most cases) of their newer brothers.? Not
> everyone is rich enough to afford a set of 4-5-6 times $5K lenses.
> >
> > From what I have read to date:The ?best? adapter is the one piece R to L
> adapter.? It transfers fstop ( estimated NOT direct aperture reaad out) and
> focal length of the ROM lens to the body for writing into the EXIF file.
> Optical lens corrrections can be automatically applied.
> > The ?best? M adapter is the M to SL adapter as it transfers the 6 bit
> code of the lens to the body.? Optical lens corrections can be
> automatically applied.
> >
> > The Novoflex adapters are all basic tubes.? No info from the lens is
> transmitted to the body...none.? You may manually enter this info into the
> body by selection from a menu of lenses.? ( same is true for any dumb
> Chinese adapters) or non-ROM lenses on Leica made adapters.
> > No existant adapter has any mechanical connection to the lens
> mechanics.? None of the aperture connections will work with R lenses.
> >
> > Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
--
Tina Manley
www.tinamanley.com
tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
<http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html>
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:13:23 +0600
From: Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R
??? lenses? Adapters?
Message-ID:
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Sent before I finished!!? I brought the M 24/2.8 and the M 50/1.4 and the
adapters on this trip but I am using them on the M240 and the MM, not on
the SL.? The results with the SL lenses surpass anything I can get with a
manual focus lens.? I've been very happy with the results I'm getting on
this trip.? It is a very hectic trip, though, with not much time on any
one subject.? I just don't have time to manually focus the M or the R
lenses.? The auto-focus on the SL works so well, I'm not tempted at all to
use the other lenses.
Tina
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:08 PM Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree.? I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses;
> however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead.
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:03 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
>> OFF TOPIC in a way, yet.
>>
>> From my experience, using legacy lenses on current bodies is more often
>> than not a waste of time and bucks.
>>
>> You loose so much in terms of fringing, slow operation and hazardous
>> rings, focusing wide open and then closing down, manual focusing, flare,
>> distortion, ease of use, that any kit lens ( well the leica ones aren?t
>> cheap I must admit ) is probably better in the field than older faithful
>> and trusted ones.
>>
>> George of the icicles spoke of systems (lens and body). And he most
>> certainly is even more right these days than when he wrote it.
>>
>> As a frustrated R user (R3MOT, R4, R8), I claim that Leica never lived up
>> to the promise of an? ? adequate solution ? for R users and lens owners.
>>
>> The SL is a new system per se, and should be used as such I?m both happy
>> and sorry to say.
>>
>> Amities
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>>
>>
>> > Le 14 janv. 2019 ? 18:56, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> a
>> ?crit :
>> >
>> > We will soon have more body choices to the Leica SL... the Panasonic
>> body is supposed to be announced soon.? More of the Leica user base will
>> be
>> looking for these ( and other) bodies for their existing R or M optics.
>> What would be helpful is to have those that have used the system for a
>> while give the rest an idea of what works and what does not.
>> > Several members have SL bodies, and may have adapted their M lenses or
>> R lenses to the SL.? It would be very informative if members could post
>> their experiences with the various combinations, especially if they have
>> tried both M and R versions on their SL.
>> > Some ideas......What adapter do you use that does the job?? There are 3
>> possible (China adapters not included) solutions:? R-SL adapter.? R-M plus
>> M to SL 2 pieces adaptation.? Novoflex R-SL adapter.? Did you experiment
>> with one or another solutions and found them unsatisfactoy?? Why?
>> > Yes, they all work with almost all the R lenses or M lenses, this is
>> taken for granted.? Did R lenses work ?better? or ?worse? than the
>> equivalent M solution?? What did you identify as the reason one was
>> ?better? than the other?
>> > Some long Telephoto R lenses will vignette with the use of the R to M
>> adapter followed by the M to SL adapter.? ( Caused by the smaller throat
>> of
>> the M adapter compared to the R-SL direct adapter).? Use one of the 1
>> stage
>> adapter to avoid this.? They work.
>> > What anomalies have you found?? What is ?weird? when you use your older
>> lenses?? What did NOT work?
>> > How do you focus?? Open up lenses to max aperture and focus, then shut
>> down lens to working aperture?? Do you magnify the view when focusing??
>> Use
>> the Focus confirmation indicator?
>> > Based on your personal experiences, what would be your ?wish list?
>> adapter look like?? Features wanted?? R to SL or M to SL?
>> > For those about to write how nice the SL native lenses work and the
>> quality of images made,..... We all know native lenses are more ergonomic
>> to use, and robably produce ?better? (optically) images. It is the $4-5-6K
>> per lens that is the underlying point of using adapted? R or M lenses,
>> which cost a small fraction ( in most cases) of their newer brothers.? Not
>> everyone is rich enough to afford a set of 4-5-6 times $5K lenses.
>> >
>> > From what I have read to date:The ?best? adapter is the one piece R to
>> L adapter.? It transfers fstop ( estimated NOT direct aperture reaad out)
>> and focal length of the ROM lens to the body for writing into the EXIF
>> file.? Optical lens corrrections can be automatically applied.
>> > The ?best? M adapter is the M to SL adapter as it transfers the 6 bit
>> code of the lens to the body.? Optical lens corrections can be
>> automatically applied.
>> >
>> > The Novoflex adapters are all basic tubes.? No info from the lens is
>> transmitted to the body...none.? You may manually enter this info into the
>> body by selection from a menu of lenses.? ( same is true for any dumb
>> Chinese adapters) or non-ROM lenses on Leica made adapters.
>> > No existant adapter has any mechanical connection to the lens
>> mechanics.? None of the aperture connections will work with R lenses.
>> >
>> > Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Leica Users Group.
>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
> --
> Tina Manley
> www.tinamanley.com
> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
> <http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html>
>
>
>
--
Tina Manley
www.tinamanley.com
tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
<http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html>
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:24:28 +0100
From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: [Leica] WAS Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again NOW BRIAN and 1TB
??? SD card
Message-ID: <BFB4C1B3-8181-4F1E-B0F1-CAB1A47D57B2 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=utf-8
My bad Brian, sorry, too hasty me got it wrong.
The appropriate link here in French but you?ll understand is here :
https://siecledigital.fr/2016/09/22/sandisk-a-cree-carte-sd-de-1tb/
<https://siecledigital.fr/2016/09/22/sandisk-a-cree-carte-sd-de-1tb/>
Amities
Philippe
> Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 00:08, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> a
> ?crit :
>
> That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive, designed to
> go into laptop and server computers.
>
> On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
>> OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen to death
>> before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
>> https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
>> <https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:13:47 -0500
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] WAS Re: I'm A Nikon Shooter Again NOW BRIAN and
??? 1TB SD card
Message-ID: <CE80E607-A2E4-4450-A818-3EA847B937C2 at rabinergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"
Wiki says the XQD cards are targeted for 2 T's and be there.
That?s Terabytes. With a capital T which rhymes with G and stands for...
--
Mark William Rabiner
Photographer
?On 1/15/19, 11:24 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at
leica-users.org> wrote:
? ? My bad Brian, sorry, too hasty me got it wrong.
? ?
? ? The appropriate link here in French but you?ll understand is here :
? ? https://siecledigital.fr/2016/09/22/sandisk-a-cree-carte-sd-de-1tb/
<https://siecledigital.fr/2016/09/22/sandisk-a-cree-carte-sd-de-1tb/>
? ?
? ? Amities
? ?
? ? Philippe
? ?
? ?
? ?
? ? > Le 15 janv. 2019 ? 00:08, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> a
?crit :
? ? >
? ? > That is not an SD card, it is a 2.5-inch SATA SSD disk drive, designed
to go into laptop and server computers.
? ? >
? ? > On 2019-01-14 13:26, Philippe via LUG wrote:
? ? >> OTT I saw that a new card can hold up to 1 TB - I?d be frozen to death
? ? >> before I?d used all its acreage (as per Mark R)
? ? >>
https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE
? ? >>
<https://shop.hardware.fr/fiche/AR201707210038.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIop2w95ru3wIVaCjTCh3iYAFxEAQYAyABEgIajvD_BwE>
? ? >
? ? > _______________________________________________
? ? > Leica Users Group.
? ? > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
? ?
? ?
? ? _______________________________________________
? ? Leica Users Group.
? ? See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:47:41 -0500
From: James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R
??? lenses? Adapters?
Message-ID: <4A072637-88E6-43CC-9344-6D91F2E53F54 at att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii
Last October in Wetzlar, Peter Karbe presented data for the SL prime lenses
- the 50mm in particular.? The image quality, based on the M lenses, was off
the scale.? The SL lenses, based on Leica data and not inhibited by size and
not miniaturized, are the best lenses Leica has ever made.
-------------------------------------
Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
Jim Handsfield
jhandsfield at att.net
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
> I agree.? I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses;
> however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead.
------------------------------
Message: 26
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:55:20 +0000
From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R
??? lenses? Adapters?
Message-ID:
??? <LO2P265MB12479D9CB6C5026E2F961F43F9810 at
LO2P265MB1247.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
???
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
They are almost S lens size and weight, but only covering 35mm format.....
john
-----Original Message-----
Last October in Wetzlar, Peter Karbe presented data for the SL prime lenses
- the 50mm in particular.? The image quality, based on the M lenses, was off
the scale.? The SL lenses, based on Leica data and not inhibited by size and
not miniaturized, are the best lenses Leica has ever made.
-------------------------------------
Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
Jim Handsfield
jhandsfield at att.net
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
> I agree.? I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses;
> however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead.
------------------------------
Message: 27
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:29:07 -0500
From: James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R
??? lenses? Adapters?
Message-ID: <7358AEC8-E1AF-425E-8340-C4DFABE0F51B at att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii
I thought the discussion was about SL and M lenses.
-------------------------------------
Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
Jim Handsfield
jhandsfield at att.net
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 12:55 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
>
> They are almost S lens size and weight, but only covering 35mm format.....
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Message: 28
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:33:56 -0600
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
To: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>,
??? "LUG at Leica-Users.org" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: [Leica] IMG: FlightAware
Message-ID: <46c8b82d-6081-0f25-6ebf-cf0fca8f116c at lighttube.net>
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One of the programs that I keep open on my desktop computer and often on
my iPhone is FlightAware.? As an old pilot, I like to watch the IFR
(Instrument Flight Rules) flights in and out of the local airport, and
occasionally, the progress of a flight.? [VFR (Visual Flight Rules)
flights do not appear.]? Today, a pilot I know is making a flight to
Palm Springs, CA, with one stop in North Texas.? Here is a screen shot
of the second leg of his flight.? He is cruising at 24,000 feet at 269 mph.
http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20190115-P1157471.JPG.html
--
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
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Message: 29
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:36:11 -0600
From: Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R
??? lenses? Adapters?
Message-ID:
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Discussions on the LUG tend to wander
Regards,
Sonny
http://sonc.com/look/
Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
USA
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:29 PM James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
wrote:
>
> I thought the discussion was about SL and M lenses.
>
> -------------------------------------
> Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
>
> Jim Handsfield
> jhandsfield at att.net
>
> > On Jan 15, 2019, at 12:55 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > They are almost S lens size and weight, but only covering 35mm
> > format.....
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
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