[Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses? Adapters?

[tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)]

I agree.  I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses;
however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:03 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> OFF TOPIC in a way, yet.
>
> From my experience, using legacy lenses on current bodies is more often
> than not a waste of time and bucks.
>
> You loose so much in terms of fringing, slow operation and hazardous
> rings, focusing wide open and then closing down, manual focusing, flare,
> distortion, ease of use, that any kit lens ( well the leica ones aren?t
> cheap I must admit ) is probably better in the field than older faithful
> and trusted ones.
>
> George of the icicles spoke of systems (lens and body). And he most
> certainly is even more right these days than when he wrote it.
>
> As a frustrated R user (R3MOT, R4, R8), I claim that Leica never lived up
> to the promise of an  ? adequate solution ? for R users and lens owners.
>
> The SL is a new system per se, and should be used as such I?m both happy
> and sorry to say.
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> > Le 14 janv. 2019 ? 18:56, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> a 
> > ?crit
> :
> >
> > We will soon have more body choices to the Leica SL... the Panasonic
> body is supposed to be announced soon.  More of the Leica user base will be
> looking for these ( and other) bodies for their existing R or M optics.
> What would be helpful is to have those that have used the system for a
> while give the rest an idea of what works and what does not.
> > Several members have SL bodies, and may have adapted their M lenses or R
> lenses to the SL.  It would be very informative if members could post their
> experiences with the various combinations, especially if they have tried
> both M and R versions on their SL.
> > Some ideas......What adapter do you use that does the job?  There are 3
> possible (China adapters not included) solutions:  R-SL adapter.  R-M plus
> M to SL 2 pieces adaptation.  Novoflex R-SL adapter.  Did you experiment
> with one or another solutions and found them unsatisfactoy?  Why?
> > Yes, they all work with almost all the R lenses or M lenses, this is
> taken for granted.  Did R lenses work ?better? or ?worse? than the
> equivalent M solution?  What did you identify as the reason one was
> ?better? than the other?
> > Some long Telephoto R lenses will vignette with the use of the R to M
> adapter followed by the M to SL adapter.  ( Caused by the smaller throat of
> the M adapter compared to the R-SL direct adapter).  Use one of the 1 stage
> adapter to avoid this.  They work.
> > What anomalies have you found?  What is ?weird? when you use your older
> lenses?  What did NOT work?
> > How do you focus?  Open up lenses to max aperture and focus, then shut
> down lens to working aperture?  Do you magnify the view when focusing?  Use
> the Focus confirmation indicator?
> > Based on your personal experiences, what would be your ?wish list?
> adapter look like?  Features wanted?  R to SL or M to SL?
> > For those about to write how nice the SL native lenses work and the
> quality of images made,..... We all know native lenses are more ergonomic
> to use, and robably produce ?better? (optically) images. It is the $4-5-6K
> per lens that is the underlying point of using adapted  R or M lenses,
> which cost a small fraction ( in most cases) of their newer brothers.  Not
> everyone is rich enough to afford a set of 4-5-6 times $5K lenses.
> >
> > From what I have read to date:The ?best? adapter is the one piece R to L
> adapter.  It transfers fstop ( estimated NOT direct aperture reaad out) and
> focal length of the ROM lens to the body for writing into the EXIF file.
> Optical lens corrrections can be automatically applied.
> > The ?best? M adapter is the M to SL adapter as it transfers the 6 bit
> code of the lens to the body.  Optical lens corrections can be
> automatically applied.
> >
> > The Novoflex adapters are all basic tubes.  No info from the lens is
> transmitted to the body...none.  You may manually enter this info into the
> body by selection from a menu of lenses.  ( same is true for any dumb
> Chinese adapters) or non-ROM lenses on Leica made adapters.
> > No existant adapter has any mechanical connection to the lens
> mechanics.  None of the aperture connections will work with R lenses.
> >
> > Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net
> >
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