Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/12/24

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Subject: [Leica] More Stock Woes
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 11:42:40 +0000
References: <CA+yJO1CkDtcfYyjbexcqK=5zmJprX6oBSmGrQHD-oUuQ9uwO_A@mail.gmail.com> <CAH1UNJ2mmw7nuV6JCgee92h5bsVcSO1QEe8GzAUJb13wO8QjVw@mail.gmail.com> <3E20B435-6225-44DB-9518-DC3B37CDFDBB@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <CAH1UNJ2Jq9tbSaScQrgBZqAib99LYj=a5TDfxHoi9kZuORDYUw@mail.gmail.com> <CA+3n+_n=bXXQzzfR6n=xbTWt25_ON6DvfTCC4_O9-FkqLRmw_A@mail.gmail.com>

The most egregious part of the article - aside from highlighting the 
photographer's self trumpeted gullibility - is the use of the term 
"reaching out" which makes me want to retch. I only reach out to get a 
lens or something that isn't immediately to hand.

Happy Christmas :-)

Douglas

On 24/12/2018 08:04, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
> This just reinforces the point of the previous article posted.  There are a
> large number of talented and/or prolific photographers for whom "stock"
> photography is not a primary or even a secondary income source.  They are
> honored to be published.  This individual photographer is also an excellent
> example of first world problem.  Doesn't read or understand the contract
> and terms of use and is upset when an entity who does understand exploits
> that na?vet?.
>
> Then there is the author of the article as Christopher pointed out that
> seems to have an agenda.
>
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 1:00 AM Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>> Even the manufacturer who licensed the photo has done nothing wrong!
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 9:13 AM Christopher Crawford <
>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The article seems to be designed to blame Walmart. It isn't their fault;
>>> they didn't license the photo, some manufacturer did and Walmart is
>> selling
>>> the manufacturer's products. They're probably not the only retailer
>> selling
>>> the stuff, but the article doesn't say if that's so. The writer left out
>> a
>>> lot, in my opinion, in order to maintain the "Walmart is Evil" narrative.
>>>
>>> At the end of the article, it says that Walmart reached out to the
>>> photographer on social media, asking him to contact them. That's a BIG
>>> detail, yet the writer does not say if the photographer talked to
>> Walmart,
>>> or what Walmart offered him. To me it sounds like the company felt bad
>> for
>>> the guy and wanted to compensate him, despite the fact that Walmart has
>> no
>>> legal obligation to do so. If so, that's very kind of them, but that
>> would
>>> ruin the 'narrative' wouldn?t it? I'd like to know if that's the
>>> case...wouldn't you?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Crawford
>>> Fine Art Photography
>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> 260-437-8990
>>>
>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>> Like My Work on Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>> ?On 12/23/18, 10:27 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG"
>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>      That is the market. He should put up and shut up, or get out and do
>>>      something else!
>>>
>>>      Walmart did NOTHING wrong, I wonder if bashing them is the flavour 
>>> of
>>> the
>>>      week.
>>>
>>>      Cheers
>>>      Jayanand
>>>
>>>      On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 12:32 AM Tina Manley via LUG <
>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>      wrote:
>>>
>>>      > PESO:
>>>      >
>>>      > This is what happens when you have no idea what you are doing:
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/12/22/photog-shocked-after-his-1-88-stock-photo-shows-up-on-walmart-goods/
>>>      >
>>>      > Comments are interesting, too.
>>>      >
>>>      > Tina
>>>      >
>>>      > --
>>>      > Tina Manley
>>>      > www.tinamanley.com
>>>      > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>      > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
>>>      > <
>>>      >
>>>
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>>      > >
>>>      >
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