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Subject: [Leica] More 16-35
From: jhandsfield at att.net (James Handsfield)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:12:07 -0400
References: <112336739.648804.1537478462033.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <112336739.648804.1537478462033@mail.yahoo.com> <001201d45153$294748e0$7bd5daa0$@ca>

Just for the record, I?m not testing the lens - I?ve used one before which 
is why I bought one.  I?m playing with it.

Jim Handsfield

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys & Gals,
> I realize I'm going to sound just like an uneducated MORON about this 
> subject? But what you are talking about technically is a language I really 
> don't understand photographically?
> You see I just took photo moments that grabbed my one good eye and I went 
> click! I never tested anything, I suppose because I felt being LEICA it 
> was the best in the world! I didn't need to test anything. Besides from my 
> first camera in hand 27May1950 as a birthday gift from my wife I'm still 
> clueless today after 65 years of everyday happy snapping the world and 
> subjects I was covering.
> I went to Halifax on an assignment one day covering the harbour and water 
> ways of the area. Unfortunately I didn't have a very long lens with me. 
> :-) However the week before I had a look at the 280mm f2.8 Leica lens and 
> 2 different extenders, but didn't buy. Well that is until I realized I 
> sure needed some long glass to cover and complete my assignment properly. 
> CORRECTION???
> I phoned my photo store in Ottawa and asked did they still have the 280mm 
> and extenders? 
> "YEP!" was the reply! My response? "OK please package the 2 extenders and 
> 280 lens and air express to me in Halifax over-night thank you very much.
> And yep I had it all the next morning about 10 a.m. Where I immediately 
> had it out of metal case and assembled to be out on the harbour by noon 
> and blasting away at the ships and whatever!
> If there was anything not working right? I wouldn't know until I was back 
> home in a week. When I sent all the colour film, "KODACHROME" in for 
> processing and back in about ten days would I know if it were "good, bad 
> or ugly?" Results?
> All was cool and beautiful from any images as a strait 280mm, or anything 
> shot with one extender, both extenders or 280.
> So during all my years shooting "LEICA GEAR" I've never tested anything 
> and my good fortune I never had a screw-up. I suppose I'm just lucky.
> When I talked by phone to a LEICA technical rep. about using the extenders 
> with the 280.. he sternly suggested not doing it!
> I asked "WHY?" His response was? "They didn't recommend it!" My response 
> back? Too late I had already done it with several hundred rolls and ? 
> "THEY WERE ALL INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL!" And I smiled to myself. :-)
> So I will say once again! I've never "tested" any LEICA lens ever! And my 
> results have always been beautiful!
> cheers,
> Dr. ted grant O.C.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Frank Filippone
> Sent: September-20-18 2:21 PM
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] More 16-35
> 
> The question of lens distortion is no longer a big issue. LR has the 
> ability to correct this. In fact, from my observations, most of the 
> correction done is about barrel or pin cushion correction. Pretty 
> secondary for landscape folk. Pretty important for (serious ) 
> architectural work. 
> Sharpness is a totally different issue. But keep in mind that your 
> composition and therefore the important elements in your image will 
> determine corner sharpness importance. Think portraits as a good example. 
> 
> Frank Filippone Red735i at Verizon.net
> On Thursday, September 20, 2018, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> I believe that the sharpness missing in the corners is due to depth of
> field issues.  Almost all ultra wides have significant sharpness falloff as
> you move off center.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:05 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks - there's a serious loss of sharpness in the angles at this
>> aperture (thinking of the decaying trunk where flare appears in the bottom
>> left corner too), but the center is (way) more than fine by my standards.
>> 
>> Now, had you shot the flowers at a wider aperture, and these at f.11, I
>> certainly would be the last one to blame you ?
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> How is distortion when shooting less bucolic scenes, for instance the
>> facade of a building at the smallest end of the zoom range, or the
>> structure of a shopping mall, is the next question I?m aking myself :-)
>> 
>> Keep them coming :-)
>> 
>> Amities
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 20 sept. 2018 ? 19:38, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net> a
>> ?crit :
>>> 
>>> Here are four more shot this morning at Henderson Park, Tucker, GA.
>> These are all shot at 16mm and wide open for comparison.
>>> 
>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/jhandsfield_att_net/Henderson+Park/
>> <http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/jhandsfield_att_net/Henderson+Park/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jim Handsfield
>>> jhandsfield at att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> Don
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