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Subject: [Leica] Today I took again the Monochrom and found a new friend
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 23:06:31 +0200
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Thanks Philippe,

I think that is necessary a larger explanation about the Zone System, on the 
80?s I have experimented and experienced some serious work with this system, 
basically in medium format, the ZS is not made to be used in a roll of film, 
unless you expose all the roll in the same manner, the sense of this system 
is to be used in large format cameras. But beside these points once you know 
the concept and how it works it is a very good conceptual platform for the 
photographers to know and preview what are they doing when they are 
shooting. As you know, in my actual work the ZS is not for this kind of 
work, but always a good reference.

Happy too to have all the "Sailors" on board!

Amiti?s
Lluis



> El 31 ag 2018, a les 21:25, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Makes sense, even if I do not always do it, and (erroneously) trust zone 
> metering and post to tame grilled highlights.
> 
> Happy to see Gerry is still on board :-)
> 
> Amities
> 
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 31 ao?t 2018 ? 13:56, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a 
>> ?crit :
>> 
>> Hi Gerry,
>> 
>> Thanks for looking and for your comment, you are talking about an 
>> interesting point I was just yesterday discussing with a Leica friend in 
>> Barcelona, he said me he expose on the maximum highlighted point of the 
>> picture to avoid ?broken highlights?, I was saying him that this is not 
>> correct in my opinion, he was converting a Zone IX or X into a V or even 
>> IV, but everyone of us has his own rules. I have usually my camera set at 
>> -0.33 and many times I still expose half stop less, what minds I?m 
>> exposing -0.83.  This is usual rule when I expose with digital, I do this 
>> because in my opinion the highlights are easily over Zone X and with 
>> digital it is very difficult correct these over exposed highlights, if 
>> you want correct this in the edition as you say once the highlights are 
>> over exposed you can?t correct them and if you do it you obtain a ugly 
>> grey highlights. On the other hand with digital it is incredible the 
>> information you can get from the shadows, particularly with the 
>> Monochrom. But with film I do the opposite, remember the old rule ?Expose 
>> for the shadows and develop for the highlights?. 
>> 
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 31 ag 2018, a les 10:59, Gerry Walden via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> This is really very nice. I notice that very often you set exposure to 
>>> -0.33 in-camera. Wouldn?t you get exactly the same effect if you did 
>>> this in post-processing do you think as surely it can make little 
>>> difference to the depth of field.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>> www.gwpics.com
>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Aug 2018, at 21:17, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree. Excellent shot Lluis.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2018 20:07, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>> Just beautiful?the lady, the smile, the photo!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> YNWA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martine
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Portraits/20180814_L1019134V2.jpg.html>
>>>>>> Leica Mm, Summilux 35 pre asph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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