Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/01/04

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The first gen did not mount properly on some M Film Bodies. The lens is f1.1 and sub $400. Pixel Peepers forget about it. It is more than fifteen thousand dollars less the the Noct?

FILM TXP and Super XX (thanks tot he late Tom A) the 7A out performs my Nikon 50 f1.2 and my Olympus OM 50 f1.2?.superb lens grab it and spend the leftover money on a used sportscar!


Mark in PDX 



> On Jan 4, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Frank,
> When LEICA began production of the Noctilux in the new factory in Canada I
> managed to purchase the first one sold back in I think in the early '70's?
> And I still have it and it's NEVER BEEN TESTED IN ANY FORM!
> My assignments back in those days were shooting many industrial projects,
> "steel mill operation, the automotive industry building vehicles start to
> finish to showroom!" Atlantic & Pacific industrial fishing, aircraft
> assembly, farming the prairies to baby birthing to finally on occasion,
> death of the elderly.
> Never once did it ever occur to me to test the "NOCTI?" And there were lot's
> of f1.0 frames with no concern whatsoever! WHY???? 
> It was a "LEICA LENS! WHY TEST IT?" :-)
> Granted 90% were shot on B&W film and many prints were on 16X20 heavy weight
> paper for exhibitions by government international use in Canadian government
> embassy offices.
> A sort of two sides to the coin situations?
> cheers,
> Dr. Ted Grant  O.C. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Frank Filippone
> Sent: January-04-18 10:44 AM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: [Leica] 7 Artisans 50mm F1.1 Lens
> 
> I bought one of these from Amazon last year ($369).  Only over Christmas did
> I get to really try it out..
> 
> 
> 
> I own a Noctilux, 3rd version. Not the new F0.95 version, but the 1.0
> version.  I thought that maybe I could buy this cheapie, and sell off the
> Nocti..   Put several thousand dollars back into the coffers...
> 
> I also own a 50mm F1.4 Summilux ASPH, the sharpest lens I have ever run
> across. 
> 
> My Monochrom is back from its stay in Allendale.. So it was the right time
> to try the lens on the Monochrom body and run it against the Summilux.
> 
> 
> 
> The focus seems right on.  There is the possibility to adjust the RF cam,
> but I did not have to do the adjustment, everything worked just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> I shot wide open. why else buy this lens?
> 
> 
> 
> There is a creamy edge to all of the images taken, from F1.1 to about F2.8
> After that, the creaminess disappears.  It is a pleasant effect.  Soft
> renditions of an earlier time and place.  But if you think this is in the
> less well focused areas, you are wrong.  It is creamy all over.  Focused
> areas or not...  May will love this for portraiture.  Maybe for some
> landscapes.
> 
> 
> 
> But it you LOVE sharpness, and pursue tit with lenses like the 50 ASPH Lux,
> this lens is so different it takes some time to comprehend.  I am not there
> yet.
> 
> 
> 
> Do I like what I shot?  Depends, as a shot of my Son worked out real well.
> But a shot of my future DIL was way more interesting ( technically?) but it
> showed every pore on her face...   The shot of her with the 7 artisans, was
> much smoother.  Of course, it also means there was nothing sharp.  So I like
> everything smooth or everything sharp?
> 
> Not so sure yet..
> 
> 
> 
> Next thing to try out is the 7 Artisans against my Nocti.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe this week...
> 
> 
> 
> BTW, the Techart Leica M to Sony A7II (and other) AF adapter worked real
> well..   That was a real win.
> 
> 
> 
> Frank Filippone
> 
> 
> 
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
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In reply to: Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] 7 Artisans 50mm F1.1 Lens)
Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] 7 Artisans 50mm F1.1 Lens)