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Subject: [Leica] From the Ilford blog - FOR LLUIS
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:42:53 +0100
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Yes, I use a Plustek as well
Lluis


> El 28 des 2017, a les 15:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Interesting comments Peter.  I would add that I have always done my own 
> scanning, to begin with I used a Canon film scanner and when that broke I 
> replaced it with a Plustek.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> Gerry Walden
> 023 8046 3076
> 0797 287 7932
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2017, at 11:34, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> FWIW: I started using chromogenic film at roughly the time I joined the 
>> LUG
>> (years ago). I found that the processing is generally straightforward for 
>> most
>> shops that do things like checking quality of the developer before and 
>> after
>> running a batch through.
>> 
>> The real issue is scanning. Gerry is right, there is little reason that it
>> should not scan well and give great tonality. HOWEVER, if you ask most
>> developing shops to scan it, they just treat it like a single-channel 
>> jpeg (in
>> my experience)
>> 
>> I used to get mine scanned onto CD as high res .TIFFs which gave me 
>> something
>> close to 24Mpixel; more than good enough for printing from and for 
>> treating as I
>> would RAW files.
>> 
>> I used Kodak 400CN. I haven't tried the Fuji, but I found that the Ilford 
>> films
>> tend to be a little darker.
>> 
>> This is a BW400CN shot:
>> 
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_120051010.jpg.html>
>> 
>> This is the same taken on XP2:
>> 
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_2XP220051010.jpg.html>
>> 
>> sorry about the glare! The only other difference is that (I think) the 
>> former
>> was taken on my IIIf and the latter on my M3.
>> 
>> BW400CN was capable of this sort of thing:
>> 
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album164/MillerPerfectCircle.jpg.html>
>> 
>> Bear in mind that all have been converted to formats and sizes that  the 
>> gallery
>> was happy with at the time.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 28/12/2017 08:50, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> I started using chromogenic films when I decided the time had come to 
>>> get rid of my darkroom. At that time there were a number of local places 
>>> that I could get GOOD C-41 processing without handling problems etc. so 
>>> it was a good alternative for me. My favourite was Kodak T-Max 400CN 
>>> which (sadly) is no longer available, but I have found that the Fuji 
>>> Neopan 400CN is a very good alternative which scans excellently with 
>>> good contrast and virtually non-existant grain. However the problem now 
>>> is that there is nowhere locally that will do professional standard C-41 
>>> processing. I never did like the Ilford version, and the suggestion that 
>>> you down rate it to 200iso made it a bit of a non-starter for me.
>>> 
>>> As for printing, I cannot comment because (as stated above) I started 
>>> using chromogenic when I did away with my darkroom. However I see no 
>>> reason why t should not print well once you get used to it but it does 
>>> tend to have a lower contrast level. It certainly scans very well.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>> www.gwpics.com
>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Dec 2017, at 18:37, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Congratulations my friend! Great pictures! well desserved!
>>>> 
>>>> I see you did a great use of chromogenic film, I think I?ve never used 
>>>> it? or maybe once many years ago?., at least in scanned woork theuy 
>>>> offer good gradation and contrast, I don?t know with enlargements on 
>>>> the darkroom, did you test them against the traditional enlargements 
>>>> from panchromatic film?
>>>> 
>>>> Have a happy Christmas time!
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> El 22 des 2017, a les 7:18, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com> va 
>>>>> escriure:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just had this published by Ilford:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.ilfordphoto.com/pre-visualisation-black-white-photography/ 
>>>>> <https://www.ilfordphoto.com/pre-visualisation-black-white-photography/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> -- 
>> 
>> ===========================================================
>> Dr Peter Dzwig                               
>> 
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