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Subject: [Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 00:28:20 +0200
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Hi Ted,

Thank you very much, I really appreciate your words and coming from you has 
an extraordinary extra value.

Cheers
Lluis


> El 20 ag 2017, a les 18:51, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> va escriure:
> 
> Bonjour Lluis,
> I have no doubts there were "greats" who were never recognized because 
> they didn't have their images shown in international magazines or used by 
> wire services. Or books, an exhibition.
> I see you as an "undiscovered GREAT ONE" on the world international level 
> of today? YET?
> HOWEVER! That is changing due to your continued presentations every week 
> on the LUG, your exhibitions in Europe. NOW? "CHICAGO-USA!"
> You constantly are producing, day after day, wonderful image moments that 
> are building your abilities and recognition about the world.
> I will always be a great supporter of you as a friend. But also as the 
> "INVISABLE PHOTOGRAPHER" of Barcelona!
> Enjoy your fame and good fortune in and from Chicago.
> cheers,
> Dr. ted  O.C. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll
> Sent: August-20-17 9:13 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> I always read your comments, I?e learned a lot, as always I find all of 
> them very interesting and clever and in my opinion this one is one of the 
> most interesting, no for your mention to me that I appreciate very much, 
> but for the question (s) it content. Can we consider the Art and the 
> Beauty with universal rules/Laws? No, of course, some years ago I?ve read 
> a very interesting book about the historical period of ?La Encyclopedie? / 
> ?La Illustraion? and how a lot of wise men has intended stablish the 
> standards and the reasons of the beauty, but fortunately the Art has or 
> shall has no rules, as you know, one of my favorite sentences is from HCB 
> ?Sharpnes is a bourgeois concept?. Longtime ago I?ve visited an exhibiton 
> of J.J. Henri Lartigue, really impressive to see what he has do with the 
> early technology. Maybe we the people we think that photography reproduces 
> the reality but as Susan Sontag says, it shows our reality. Behind the 
> great names of the past there many others was ?eclipsed? by the great 
> stars of the moment.
> 
> At this moment your interrogative sign still need a response that maybe 
> don?t exist or there exist too many?. Diversity is our richness!
> 
> Cheers!
> Lluis
> 
> 
>> El 20 ag 2017, a les 1:05, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> va escriure:
>> 
>> W. Eugene Smith: ?I Didn?t write the Rules, Why should I Follow Them??
>> =================================
>> Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Probably one of the smartest things Eugene Smith ever said or made us 
>> aware of!
>> Yes another shooter may sometimes point out a "photo correction" we may 
>> have missed regarding one of our own photos.
>> However? It is our own eyes, gut feelings, technical wisdom and several 
>> other items that guides each and every one of us in capturing a "beauty 
>> we love with great passion!"
>> Oh of course we're not always right! Nobody has ever been that good! 
>> Including Eugene Smith and many of his era that today have some folks 
>> bowing before them as "THE GREATS OF THE GREATEST!"
>> Oh they were good for their day and equipment, no question! BUT TODAY== 
>> 2017? 
>> You betcha! Right here amongst the LUG we have some extremely fine 
>> shooters I'd put up against those "old timers" under the conditions of 
>> today's society" compared to the '20's-'30s-'40'etc! 
>> The bottom line with these "wunderkin-shooter's of old" ===  SOCIETY OF 
>> TO DAY? would eat them alive?" Or punch their brains out!
>> One lugger right here about to have a magnificent exhibition in Chicago, 
>> our very own "INVISABLE LLUIS!" of Barcelona! :-)
>> If we could only bring Cartier Bresson and a couple of other "Hot Shot 
>> Shooters of the past?" back for Lluis exhibition it would be most 
>> interesting to hear their comments?  :-) 
>> That's not going to happen, "unfortunately!"
>> I still believe we have excellent photogs of all calibre's, in quality 
>> today in many situations far superior to those of the long gone past.
>> For what all that's worth? Maybe nothing? So I shall return to my quite 
>> resting of a Saturday afternoon! Unfortunately! :-(
>> cheers,
>> Dr. Ted Grant O. C. 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll
>> Sent: August-19-17 2:12 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson
>> 
>> Gerry,
>> 
>> W. Eugene Smith: ?I Didn?t write the Rules, Why should I Follow Them??
>> 
>> Cheers my friend!
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> El 19 ag 2017, a les 13:37, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va 
>>> escriure:
>>> 
>>> Always shoot the image and forget the rules. If it looks right then it 
>>> is right DESPITE the rules.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Aug 2017, at 11:13, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Jayanand, It is interesting, but it puts to me a question, 
>>>> which one is the priority?
>>>> 
>>>> BE CREATIVE and put the rules 
>>>> 
>>>> or
>>>> 
>>>> PUT THE RULES and try creativity
>>>> 
>>>> Cartier-Bresson was basically instictive, but maybe one day someone 
>>>> will put these grids on the digital screens and it will be amazing see 
>>>> the people composing through it?. :-) 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> El 18 ag 2017, a les 4:11, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
>>>>> va escriure:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those interested:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.diyphotography.net/breaking-masterful-composition-henri-cartier-bressons-photos/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>> 
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