Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/07/13

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] High activations
From: red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:40:05 -0700
References: <BY2PR0501MB16885B61286A87B619FD808CC8AC0@BY2PR0501MB1688.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> <CAEFt+w8Q02BKYq7Az073vpZOWk7-nOEFpYxGeher8br+DKtw0A@mail.gmail.com> <DBFFD30B-56F9-4052-A674-BEDE083A5447@teleport.com> <CAEFt+w-zOZV5qjYBXrtLqQOCNTYVbd4uD7--creq0MAt4+nQ1g@mail.gmail.com>, <73B27AAD-EC24-4A6A-AC4E-E1C94473EB47@frozenlight.eu> <D9A7412E-EFFA-4C04-AF44-493D11F46BE8@duke.edu>

Yes, sensor corrosion..... read below.....
Yes, but.....
At first there was a lifetime replacement for free....
Lately ( last 90? Days) they said the free replacement would end in 
August..... about a month from now.... After that date, it will cost $1000 
or so..... ( which means it is cheaper to sell the corroded camera and buy a 
different M9....
Which is what I think will happen.....

BTW, this is also true of the CCD version of the Monochrom....  Same 
problem, same solution, same dates, same costs.

OK, MY senor had its glass cover plate fall off... Leica did a free repair 
for me.... 
They replaced the COVER GLASS PLATE... NOT the SILICON SENSOR.....
I think, postulate and firmly believe, that that is all they are doing in 
their update program..... and that is ALL THEY NEED TO DO..... the cover 
plate is corroding , it needs to be replaced.  
The silicon sensor does NOT need to be touched...

Having been in the Silicon Business all my professional career, the 
nomenclature is important to me.... to the public, not so much....

Frank Filippone

Red735i at verizon.net

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Michael Volow, M.D.
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:45 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] High activations

 Thank you for replying. The sensor was labeled clean and without defects. 
My understanding is that the sensor replacement is for corrosion on the 
sensor surface. Is that correct?  Is the sensor replacement by Leica free?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
> wrote:
> 
> With an M9, I would not worry so much about 21000 actuations, but rather 
> whether the sensor had been replaced.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frozenlight.eu
> &d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzo
> lmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=rEQVxkgZj2l
> qrrRFLvt8AhcbM7hbVTpdnQZeTfwe_r8&e=  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frozenlight.e
> u_&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfb
> zolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=m40Sr9Elu
> 8ScvQplbvSX9E8kEXs-UKDJSfuZIgHeXMk&e= > http:// 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.greatpix.eu_&;
> d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzol
> mI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=zSQWmAwjFNFY
> 1KaiYIQRKt9kwTaqjI09V1ZtOxa3Ti0&e= >www.greatpix.eu PICTURE OF THE 
> WEEK: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fotocycle.dk_p
> aws&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkf
> bzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=6JGjEU6M
> E9xzGHY4lGqvgiDYgSM0Dh5RCdMcFexC1jI&e=  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fotocycle.dk_
> paws&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRk
> fbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=6JGjEU6
> ME9xzGHY4lGqvgiDYgSM0Dh5RCdMcFexC1jI&e= >Blog: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nathansmusings.wor
> dpress.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S
> 1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=
> 5kg7TFUc-VsazWP6WrOZ1F9DUwT6DKPUAIlKSG_qvYs&e=  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nathansmusings.wo
> rdpress.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=
> S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s
> =5kg7TFUc-VsazWP6WrOZ1F9DUwT6DKPUAIlKSG_qvYs&e= >
> Cycling: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.crazyguyonabik
> e.com_belgiangator&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4
> adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n
> 85Gk&s=he1H-ez6oSizqbWHy7ex40My585TSTOHCnNzmUN2FxQ&e=  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.crazyguyonabi
> ke.com_belgiangator&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ
> 4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4
> n85Gk&s=he1H-ez6oSizqbWHy7ex40My585TSTOHCnNzmUN2FxQ&e= > YNWA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Jul 2017, at 23:00, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Seriously, is the number of activations recorded somewhere in the 
>> camera like an odometer?
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Mark Kronquist <mak at teleport.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Really? One of my Nikon D700?s now on light duty as a back up to a 
>>> back up
>>> D3 D4 series has well over 500,000
>>> 
>>> Way past rated life but working like a charm
>>>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That's like buying a used Spandau that has done lots of machine gunning.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Michael Volow, M.D. 
>>>> <mvolo at duke.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Looking at a used Leica M9-P with 21,000 activations.  Is that too 
>>>>> many activations to risk buying? Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from 
>>>>> Mail<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.micro
>>>>> soft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D550986&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcs
>>>>> iEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9
>>>>> Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=vBxkLlPA5pcFJENAxfilaKealjslc51JQN5
>>>>> AaKz-xKc&e= > for Windows 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See 
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__leica-2Dusers.
>>>>> org_mailman_listinfo_lug&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6Y
>>>>> HLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thg
>>>>> nHH-xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=YY3x8HB34PT1NN1mdoPvakw-XmY5ihkmUoCZ2uDVI30&e
>>>>> =  for more information
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See 
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__leica-2Dusers.o
>>>> rg_mailman_listinfo_lug&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHL
>>>> R0Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH
>>>> -xSIxqLfT4n85Gk&s=YY3x8HB34PT1NN1mdoPvakw-XmY5ihkmUoCZ2uDVI30&e=  
>>>> for more information
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__leica-2Dusers.or
>>> g_mailman_listinfo_lug&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0
>>> Sj_gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xS
>>> IxqLfT4n85Gk&s=YY3x8HB34PT1NN1mdoPvakw-XmY5ihkmUoCZ2uDVI30&e=  for 
>>> more information
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__leica-2Dusers.org
>> _mailman_listinfo_lug&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj
>> _gZ4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxq
>> LfT4n85Gk&s=YY3x8HB34PT1NN1mdoPvakw-XmY5ihkmUoCZ2uDVI30&e=  for more 
>> information
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__leica-2Dusers.org_
> mailman_listinfo_lug&d=DwIGaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_g
> Z4adc&r=S1OtSDRkfbzolmI8AeX6TA&m=JejsnbjVskZ9_p9Els6Bh-thgnHH-xSIxqLfT
> 4n85Gk&s=YY3x8HB34PT1NN1mdoPvakw-XmY5ihkmUoCZ2uDVI30&e=  for more 
> information

_______________________________________________
Leica Users Group.
See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information



In reply to: Message from mvolo at duke.edu (Michael Volow, M.D.) ([Leica] High activations)
Message from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] High activations)
Message from mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist) ([Leica] High activations)
Message from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] High activations)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] High activations)
Message from mvolo at duke.edu (Michael Volow, M.D.) ([Leica] High activations)