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Subject: [Leica] PESO 07 05 17
From: dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:55:27 +0800
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That's even better with a whopping 900 rolls to match up to the price of an 
M9. At 30 rolls per year, which is quite reasonable for a keen amateur, he 
needs to live another 30 years. By that time, the M9 would have bitten the 
dust much earlier. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Jul 2017, at 5:33 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
> 
> Agreed.  Actually, I figured tri-x 36 exposure at $4.95/roll from B&H (as
> of yesterday), and the cost of chemicals (D-76 private label, plus Arista
> rapid-fixer)/sleeves at $1.50/roll from my orders with Freestylephoto.biz,
> so I subtracted the cost of the reconditioned V600 from the total, and
> used a total of $6.50/roll for the calculation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Dan Khong
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:20 PM
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO 07 05 17
> 
> Today, one roll of TriX is $7. To soup the film is another $2. To scan the
> roll professionally (they even take away the dust) is $10. So with $20, I
> will have a roll to enlarge with my enlarger and 36 digital images to play
> around. If a digital M costs $6000 (on SALE, let's say), that's equivalent
> to 300 rolls. That's a lot of years of film use.
> 
> Professionals need to use digital. That's their bread and butter. Amateurs
> like me can still play around with films.
> 
> Dan K.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I agree.  Interesting you should mention thus: The Leica Society
>> (formerly
>> LHSA) just posted a video of Jim Lager talking about getting into
>> Leica equipment.  He mentioned that if your budget did not permit new
>> optics and a camera, you should buy a new body and older optics.  He
>> mentioned an SL or an M240.  I wrote to executive director and noted
>> that the purchaser of a nice M3 (which can be had with a recent CLA
>> for under a grand) would allow the purchaser to buy nearly 600 rolls
>> of Tri-X with home processing, plus an Epson V600 scanner for the
>> price of an SL (or about 300+ rolls with an M240 option).  The
>> likelihood of a beginner blowing through 300 rolls in two years is
>> highly unlikely, so that it makes better economic sense to go for the
>> film camera.  Plus, after two years' use the SL or M240 would have
> depreciated, while the M3 would have retained its value, if not increased.
>> If the person getting into Leica photography were a professional or
>> needed immediate confirmation of an image, then the considerably more
>> expensive digital body would make sense. Lager also recommended
>> shopping for used equipment online without a mention of eBay's not
> inconsiderable pitfalls.
>> Ill let everyone know if I receive a response.
>> Lovely shot, beautifully captured the wh9ole composition of woman plus
>> puppy plus background figures just works for me.
>> 
>> The M3 is of course still the best Leica ever. No Flames , PLEASE!!!
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>>> On 06/07/2017 01:08, Jim Shulman wrote:
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/focusit/fountain+puppy+sm.jpg.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> M3, Summilux 50, Neopan 400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jim Shulman
>>> 
>>> Wynnewood, PA
>>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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Replies: Reply from pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) ([Leica] PESO 07 05 17)
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