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Subject: [Leica] Leica SL lens question
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 11:02:55 +1000
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Tina the quality of your images is testament to how well this camera is
working for you.
I think perhaps that you, Bob and I are using the camera quite different
ways of course.
A neck strap is a wrist leash insurance for me but holding the camera out
somewhat extended arms off and on for some hours shooting a lot of frames
quickly in sets, is when I am affected by the holding discomfort. If I am
holding out the camera for the model to see the LCD previews I can become
very unsteady armed! Just how the OIS operates when the shutter is at sync
speed and the duration is that of the flash pulse, I haven't quite come to
grips with.

On cards, for my style of shooting with the SL I have two 32GB fast cards
of which I might typically fill the first or a little more in a half day
project..then there is tethering (not relevant you you or for Bob either of
course).


Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

On 10 June 2017 at 10:44, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I carried only the SL and 24-90 and 50/1.4 to Syria.  I figured if anything
> broke, I would use my cell phone.  Nothing broke.  I carried the camera
> with the 24-90 90% of the time.  I used the 50/1.4 for portraits of kids
> mostly.  I walked a lot carrying all of my equipment.  I'm a 71 year old
> woman with two artificial knees.  The camera and lens were never too heavy
> for me.  I never got a sore neck or shoulder from carrying the camera.  The
> auto-focus on this camera is phenomenal.  I carried the M6 and Noctilux for
> many, many years with 300 rolls of film in a backpack.  This is certainly
> equal or easier as far as I'm concerned.  Two tiny little 128 GB cards held
> all of my photos.
>
> Tina
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:28 PM, <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bob I should have more correctly said that the ROM functions with the R
> > lenses are not relevant with the M lenses and there is no mechanical
> > linkage for aperture operation with M lenses as we know.
> > And yes the M optical dot coding is relevant.
> > My love for the 24-90 and OIS is not undiluted I confess, or at least the
> > jury is still out for me.
> > The way I use the SL focus is to use a single AF point in AFs operating
> in
> > MF with the rear button (as I was taught for fashion/beauty with DSLRs)
> > But I don?t always see what I think ought to be bitingly sharp even
> though
> > I am typically f/9.5 and be there for studio.
> > It certainly can be but maybe I need more practice. To be fair when you
> > are seeing S and SL files from same environment at 100% on your editing
> > monitor.....
> > Maybe the OIS is making my slower exposures sharper but I am not noticing
> > it. It?s a thing to remember when I go to tripod though.
> >
> > As an aside to that let?s see if all of those acronyms provoke comments!
> >
> > Handling wise for me the SL-and 24-90 doesn?t feel appreciably lighter
> > that  the S with say 70 and the S is much better ergonomically as far as
> > holding comfort. That changes if you put the battery grip on the SL
> > Without that it is the sharp lower edge that bites me a bit after an hour
> > or two and a few hundred frames. Again it obviously it depends on how you
> > are shooting.  Sitting or kneeling on the studio floor hand-holding that
> > thing, align focus point compose shoot, maybe a frame every three seconds
> > for sets of 30 or 50. Maybe 300-500 frames in a couple of hours, more if
> I
> > am shooting with both cameras.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Bob Adler
> > Sent: Saturday, 10 June 2017 10:01 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica SL lens question
> >
> > My M adapter has contacts.  Also, the lens information on coded M lenses
> > is passed through to become part of the EXIF information.
> >
> > Relative to Aram's question, there are a couple of things that I like
> > about SL lenses vs third party lenses:
> > 1.  SL lenses have OIS. I find this is very helpful in keeping the ISO
> > lower and the shutter speed higher by a couple of stops.
> > 2.  The autofocus is pretty impressive, but I'm not shooting sports or
> > moving animals, jus grandsons...
> > 3. Have you added the weight of the SL/R or whatever adapter to your
> calcs?
> > 4. The SL 24-90 isn't really that large. The hood and small body make it
> > appear that way. My bride thinks it looks, overall, smaller than most N
> & C
> > cameras she sees. YMMV
> > Good luck,
> > Bob
> >
> > Bob Adler
> > www.robertadlerphotography.com
> >
> > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Aram you might like to research the exact functionality and cost for
> the
> > R
> > > adaptor as part of your considerations? Doug may be able to comment
> > there?
> > > I have the M adaptor but that has no linkages or contacts at all of
> > course
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 at 2:21 pm, Aram <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi.  I was wondering about an alternative lens for the SL.  My biggest
> > >> gripe (aside from price) is the weight of the system and had a thought
> > of a
> > >> way to perhaps lighten the load a bit.  I have the 35-70/4 but I have
> > >> always thought I could use a bit more range.  So, how about the Leica
> > 28-90
> > >> ASPH?  I hear it is a pretty darn good lens, weighs about 50% less
> than
> > the
> > >> new 24-90 for the SL and can be had for a lot less money.  Does
> anybody
> > >> know how it would compare optically with the 24-90?  I found some MTF
> > >> curves for each, and it looks like the new SL lens is better, but that
> > does
> > >> not tell me much about real life situations.  True, you give up AF,
> but
> > I
> > >> do that now anyway using my 35-70 on my Nikon.  And I played around
> > with an
> > >> SL a bit last time I was in Seattle and I was able to focus it
> > accurately
> > >> with a much higher success rate than with my Nikon D750.  I was at one
> > time
> > >> tempted to get the 28-90 until I found out that Leitax does not adapt
> > that
> > >> lens to a Nikon mount.
> > >>
> > >> Aram
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Aram Langhans
> > >> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
> > >> & Unemployed photographer
> > >>
> > >> ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
> > himself
> > >> would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson
> > >>
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In reply to: Message from leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram) ([Leica] Leica SL lens question)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Leica SL lens question)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler) ([Leica] Leica SL lens question)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (hopsternew at gmail.com) ([Leica] Leica SL lens question)
Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Leica SL lens question)