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Subject: [Leica] URL: USA freelance rates
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 15:27:02 -0400
References: <MMXP123MB140886F414D6FDF269F9258DD1160@MMXP123MB1408.GBRP123.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <771C0973-C6BA-4171-8559-7B182E0406A9@gmail.com> <0181A0941A15450A9811F8A5FB3DE7E2@OWNERPC>

Will be??  Already are there.

:-(

Tina

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> Tin,
>
> I said years ago that the ubiquity of cell phone with cameras cameras
> would lead to the painful death of photography. It seems to me that our
> society has been on an ever downward trip to below mediocrity. Photos that
> are good enough on a tiny screen on a phone are "good enough" for the
> average viewer and for reproduction in a newspaper or magazine. 140
> character tweets are highly regarded over extensive well researched
> articles in newspapers, magazines and radio TV news.
>
> As this process continues, we will have a more and more ignorant populace
> and will be like fresh meat for political crackpots.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tina Manley
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:29 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] URL: USA freelance rates
>
> Almost all of the professional photographers I know have had to take
> another job to make ends meet.  I would never advise anybody to go into
> photography as a career these days.  Unfortunately, the best newspaper
> journalists I know have also had to find new careers.   The Charlotte
> Observer used to have wonderful photographers and journalists.  They've let
> them all go.  The paper really suffers as a result.  Nobody proofreads
> anything and the photos are made by reporters with cell phones.
>
> Tina
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Leo Wesson <leowesson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>>
>> Those rates are fairly accurate but the problem is that there are so many
>> really good photogs out there freelancing due to news outlets laying off
>> folks that gigs at those rates are hard to get.
>>
>> The other problem is that usually you have to assign all rights to the
>> people who hire you so if you do get that once in a lifetime image, you
>> will see no additional money from licensing it. You might even have to pay
>> to use the image in your self promotion.
>>
>> All the top level freelance pj photogs that I know struggle to make a
>> living.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Leo Wesson
>> Leowesson.com
>> 817-733-9157
>>
>> > On May 3, 2017, at 06:13, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
>> >
>> > https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/freelance-photographers-pitch.php
>> >
>> > john
>> >
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In reply to: Message from john at mcmaster.fr (John McMaster) ([Leica] URL: USA freelance rates)
Message from leowesson at gmail.com (Leo Wesson) ([Leica] URL: USA freelance rates)
Message from billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce) ([Leica] URL: USA freelance rates)