Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/10/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]True, but none of my Leica's have been in north America -) I have other cameras (except for the S2-P) and that is no different to film days with multiple bodies/backs and sometimes overlap of main lenses. john -----Original Message----- From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Sent: Friday, 7 October 2016 10:15 a.m. To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or SHOULD NOT use Leica...... Any camera in the hand is worth many in NJ ;-) Amities Philippe Le 7 oct. 2016 ? 09:33, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> a ?crit : > The sensors were made by third party (possibly to Leica specs) and the S > AF motor failure is probably very embarrassing to them, all too common :-( > > I have tried other systems (D800E and X-T1) and neither liked them in use > nor their results... > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > All of which makes me wonder about the economic model of the firm - > charging premium prices for unreliable gear that you then repair for free > makes little sense to me. > It gets even worse for the user who suffers long delays and has to pay for > it all. > I understand Frank's rant as a result. > > Amities > Philippe > > Le 7 oct. 2016 ? 09:09, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> a ?crit : > >> Trying to work out where your hold-up is, Solms/Wetzlar have sent my kit >> back within a day or so of completion. In the last 12 months, three >> sensors (M9, original Monochrom and S2-P, plus currently on my third S AF >> failure), all carried out free including shipping..... >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> John.. are you REALLY willing to pull my chain when I am basically >> exploding over this issue????? >> >> Really???????????? >> >> Frank Filippone >> Red735i at verizon.net >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf Of John McMaster >> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 1:58 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or SHOULD >> NOT use Leica...... >> >> Leica Wetzlar or NJ? I had my M9 sensor replaced on an eight week >> turnaround door to door.... >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf Of Frank Filippone >> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:57 p.m. >> To: 'Leica Users Group' >> Subject: [Leica] Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or SHOULD NOT >> use Leica...... >> >> My M9 is STILL at Leica.. >> >> 2 weeks ago Tuesday I was told it would ship that day. >> >> Waited a week, checked, and they were going to ship it THAT day >> >> Checked yesterday, it will ship that day >> >> Today, it is still at Leica and will ship today.. >> >> >> >> It is like the old joke. Free Beer.. Manana >> >> >> >> Today's story is that I will get tracker number this afternoon... >> >> >> >> I made 4 calls today to reach someone.. the previous "record" was 10 >> calls.. >> >> >> >> And you wonder why only (who cares if it is an exaggeration..!) rich >> amateurs can afford Leica??????? Pros can not be bothered with the >> hassle... >> >> >> >> It is not a matter of not having a camera to shoot with ( the A7 and the >> MM can do the job) >> >> It is MY camera, and I want it back... >> >> >> >> >> >> As an amateur, I am entitled to absolutely NO special service... no >> rush, no nada. >> >> The camera was sent to Leica on July 8. In case you are going to >> calculate, that is 3 months. >> >> It has been sitting on the shelf at Leica, repaired, for at least a week, >> probably 2 weeks.. >> >> >> >> The problem was that the glass cover plate over the sensor fell off. >> loose.. On the 8th day of a 42 day vacation. >> >> >> >> Please. No comments on how you got your Leica back in 4 seconds, all >> fixed, from a basket case of screws nuts and bolts... >> >> >> >> My previous experience was an M6 sent on for repair, and when it got >> back, the body case was so badly bent that a film cassette would not fit. >> >> >> >> Are these guys really serious about getting market share? >> >> >> >> If you NEED to have your camera functional, maybe a Nikon or Canon really >> is a better choice.. >> >> >> >> Rant off. >> >> >> >> >> >> Frank Filippone >> >> Red735i at verizon.net >> >