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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: IR Attempts
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 00:08:41 +0200
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Great shots Ken!

My favorites are ?Central Oklahoma?, ?Taos pueblo?, ?Mission San FRancisco?"

Lluis


> El 1 set 2016, a les 17:33, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> va escriure:
> 
> Hi Howard,
> 
> Yes, that is correct.  In my initial tries with digital IR I thought a 
> wide-angle at infinity would make things simple, but as you note there are 
> different infinities for the wavelengths.  With regard to autofocus, I 
> can't offer a technical explanation.  Since the autofocus is based on 
> contrast differences, I just assume those work as well in the IR as they 
> do in normal light.  Here is a more complete explanation from 
> Lifepixel.com:
> 
> https://www.lifepixel.com/focus-calibration-options
> 
> Here are some samples mostly all taken with the Fuji XE-1 or XE-2 and a 
> Hoya R72 IR filter (and autofocus):
> 
> http://www.kencarney.com/infrared
> 
> The Fuji cameras have a weak IR filter.  The downside is long exposure 
> times and a tripod or monopod (as much as 1/2 second).  I will probably 
> soon have a third Fuji XE body which I will probably have converted to IR 
> only, and take advantage of normal exposure times.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 8/31/2016 8:24 PM, Howard L Ritter Jr wrote:
>> Ken?
>> 
>> If you think you can't focus IR because you can?t go beyond infinity, 
>> you?re going in the wrong direction. IR focuses as though the subject is 
>> CLOSER than it is, so you want to use a DOF marker that focuses the lens 
>> at a shorter distance than the subject actually is. For my lens (same as 
>> Tina?s) the best ?distance" for a subject at infinity is 2-3 meters. Even 
>> there I can?t get as sharp an image as with visible light.
>> 
>> No, this 21mm f/2.8 Elmarit doesn?t have an IR index. I?ve seen them, and 
>> would have sworn that my older Leica glass did, but not so my vintage 50 
>> ?lux, DR ?cron, or 5cm ?cron. I have no idea where I used to see them, 
>> but clearly IR is out of fashion now.
>> 
>> I?m intrigued to hear that you can get properly focused IR images with an 
>> AF lens. Are you shooting digital? I?d have thought that the IR filter 
>> routinely used as a sensor cover glass in digital photography (except for 
>> the M8!) would have prevented this. Or are you using film? If digital, 
>> what camera? And what filter are you using?
>> 
>> ?howard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks like you're pretty close.  I think the key to IR is autofocus, not 
>>> an option here.  You might try a few shots at different focus settings 
>>> to see what works with the M8/21.  I know my Fuji X 14mm is OOF when it 
>>> is at his hard stop infinity setting, with a 720nm filter, but autofocus 
>>> if fine.  Also in LR I like to pump up the whites and decrease the 
>>> blacks some.  It is great that you can make IR images at those settings, 
>>> freeing you from the tripod.  I take it that the 21 does not have an 
>>> "infrared" focus mark?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/31/2016 6:49 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>> LUG:
>>>> 
>>>> After seeing the great IR photos posted here lately, I finally dug out 
>>>> my
>>>> old M8s (the ones that fell in the river but are still working fine),
>>>> charged up the batteries, and found a B+W 092 filter in the drawer that 
>>>> fit
>>>> my 21/2.8 Elmarit.  I went out around the farm and photographed a few
>>>> things.  Lots of problems.  Nothing looks sharp.  What am I doing wrong?
>>>> None of the EXIF is right.  Most of these were made at ISO 160, around 
>>>> 5.6,
>>>> and usually 1/30 or more exposure.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/163998663
>>>> 
>>>> and the next 5.   Is there a trick to focusing with the dark filters?  
>>>> I do
>>>> like the tones so I would like to learn how to do this, but it has to 
>>>> be in
>>>> focus to work for me!!  I got some great photos of the cat yawning that 
>>>> are
>>>> so out of focus I won't bother to post them!!
>>>> 
>>>> TIA
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>> 
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