Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/06/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]16 shots per roll 120, 32 shots per 220 roll is good start as to why some people preferred 645. Remember, Hassy style boxes weren't the only 645's; the Fuji 645 rangefinders were pocket-able and offered ease of use. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Frank Verizon 2 2016 <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > Most of the 645 cameras were models made for eye level viewing, like an > SLR. I think that feature alone domimated the thought process of > manufacturers and users... A big negative SLR. > There were exceptions, including the Fuji foldup 645, and Plaubel Makina, > probably others. But the waist level Rollei and Hasselblad and others went > dead. Eye level prisms were available, but adde to weight. > > In fairness, the waist level cameras were heavy, the eye level ones > comparatively light > > None of this explains why the square format was discarded. > > Note that Phase (or was it Leaf) did offer a square format digital sensor > for a while. No longer, however. > > Frank > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 25, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > I don't get the square format medium format cameras dead statement. > None of those cameras went under. Hasselblad, Rolleiflex and a few others. > 645 remained a bargain basement medium format for people who had to feel > like they were shooting 35. Square format Hasselblads dominated wedding and > event shooting till the end. > > > > On 6/22/16 9:17 PM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Sometime in the long ago, some marketing guy thought the rather obscure > 645 > > size ( remember the A16 Hassy back?) was MF. At that time, there was > 6x6 and > > 645. ( and 6x7; 6x9; and even 6x8). All the numbers referred to film > size in > > mm. They all used a common 120 film size. > Then someone thought that 6x6 was > > a dead end and there were no more 6x6 cameras being made. They were all > > 645....the other sizes went dead. > So magically, 645 became the MF standard > > (and only size). > With the advent of digital, 645 became a ratio (4:3), not a > > mm size, and so now we have digital MF sensors that measure 44x33mm > > There are > > larger sensors.... But none measure 56x56 mm, the old time MF standard > > We can > > only hope some sensor in the future will measure 56x56mm. My CF lenses > will > > cover the sensor, easily. > > Frank > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 22, 2016, at > > 6:58 PM, lluisripollphotography <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Neither for me I think, I don?t like operate on cameras in Menu mode > > neither with EVF, on the other hand this one is not exactly a MF camera, > IMHO > > it is equivalent to a smaller 4,5 x 6, the CMOS sensor is 43.8 ? 32.9mm, > for > > me the true MF (at least in film) is 60 x 60 mm (2 1/4" x 2 > > 1/4?). > > Lluis > > > > > > El 22 juny 2016, a les 23:16, Frank Verizon 2 2016 > > <red735i at verizon.net> va escriure: > > > > Appears to be a Leica SL on steroids, > > at a discount store price. > > Does 2 lenses sound familiar? > > No zoom yet, no > > H lens adapter yet. > > Fully electronic lens to body connections mean that > > CF,C, and F lenses will not work, unless they make a special adapter > > available > > > > It is substantially lighter than my Leaf + 500CM system, a good > > thing. > > > > I am unconvinced it is a path for me. > > > > Frank Filippone > > > > > > <http://www.hasselblad.com/x1d> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See > > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users > > Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users > > Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana 1714 Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase USA