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Subject: [Leica] [OM] IMG: How can you get a dirty sensor with a camera that does not have interchangeable lenses?
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:49:00 -0500
References: <7468D6CE-EDDB-4F91-AAC0-0D3B16E346CA@frozenlight.eu> <B3FE1431-F3E1-4990-9ED7-6227A67F2096@gmail.com> <CAOQd94MaVTanhwXZqX5XSdeXjt4M63k3u+b9duvm4aW8yEb4=Q@mail.gmail.com> <5b15e6d5-e0f7-51ee-e9e7-3353da483b21@chucknorcutt.com> <A9CE3D10-D721-4482-BF83-BF037FEE02CB@frozenlight.eu>

Maybe you can shake the camera to dislodge it.  But then that might put the
dust right in the bullseye!

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Thanks, Chuck (and others who commented). The camera is not labelled or
> marketed as weatherproof and since I live in a place that is very dry and
> often windy, it is highly likely that a grain of dust got inside the
> camera. I very much doubt that Panasonic would fix this under warranty (the
> camera is out of warranty anyway), so I will just live with it and remove
> the spot in LR when it is bothersome (as it is in the example I posted).
>
> Thanks again to all.
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
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> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
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> YNWA
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> > On 24 Jun 2016, at 14:21, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt at 
> > chucknorcutt.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On the contrary, I would expect the camera to be sealed precisely
> because the sensor cannot be cleaned without at least partially
> disassembling the camera.
> >
> > The spot looks exactly like many such spots I've seen on my Canon 5D. So
> I also assume it's dust on the sensor.  Proof that it's dust on the sensor
> would be to take successive photos of clear blue sky from wide open to
> fully closed down.  At the LX-100's maximum aperture of f/1.7-2.8 the dust
> bunny may be invisible or nearly so as a very light gray cloud.  As the
> aperture closes down its shape will be more distinct (as in the image
> below) and it will get much darker.
> >
> > I consider it a manufacturing defect.  Either the inside wasn't
> perfectly dust free when it was made or dust/debris has been generated by
> friction of mechanical motion such as by the shutter mechanism.
> >
> > In any case I would expect a warranty repair... even it it's beyond the
> normal warranty period.  Adverse publicity to the hundreds or thousands of
> avid photographers on multiple lists is probably not a good thing for
> Panasonic.
> >
> > Finally, the do it yourself guide:
> > <
> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Panasonic+LUMIX+DMC-LX100/55603
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> >
> > Chuck Norcutt
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> > On 6/24/2016 4:38 AM, Chris Weir wrote:
> >> Dirt could get in through the gaps - I don't think that is a sealed
> camera.
> >> Or more likely a flake of paint or other internal debris.
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Philippe <
> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Were it not repeated on other files I'd vote for a bird on that one.
> >>>
> >>> Now, it might be a speck that moved inside and might move again, shake
> it
> >>> baby.
> >>> It will have to go back to Solms New Tokyo in any case I'm afraid
> >>>
> >>> Amities
> >>> Philippe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le 24 juin 2016 ? 09:20, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> a
> ?crit :
> >>>
> >>>> I noticed a while ago that images taken with my Panasonic LX 100 have
> a
> >>> smudge in the upper right part of the image:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-Db2WtZM/A
> >>>>
> >>>> Since the camera does not have interchangeable lenses, I did not
> expect
> >>> dirt on the sensor, but that is apparently what it is?I see nothing on
> the
> >>> front element of the lens. And of course since I cannot take the lens
> off,
> >>> I cannot clean the sensor either. So I guess I am reduced to either
> >>> cropping away the offending part of the image, or using the tools in
> LR to
> >>> get rid of the smudge.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still, very annoying. Have others experienced something similar with
> >>> this type of camera?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Nathan
> >>>>
> >>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>> YNWA
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