Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/06/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Douglas, From the latest posting I could find, the best clue is the Firmware number. Apparently, if the new corrosion-less sensor is installed, they update the Firmware to 1.204. The previous version, for the earlier sensor, is 1.202. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA On 6/1/2016 4:19 PM, Douglas Sharp wrote: > http://uk.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Update-CCD-Sensor > > > > *Dated 31/08/2015:* > > > /"Update CCD Sensor of the Leica M9/M9-P/M > Monochrom and M-E camera models/ > > // > > /We are very pleased to inform you that we have successfully completed > development on our new generation of CCD sensors and conducted > subsequent quality assurance testing under practical conditions. As a > result, Leica Camera AG can now begin replacing the sensors in the M9, > M9-P and M-E models that were affected by corrosion with sensors from > the new generation./ > > /Sensor replacement for M Monochrom models will also begin shortly. We > will inform you of the precise date of this as soon as possible./ > > /On this note, we would like to remind our customers that we can only > offer replacements for CCD sensors for cameras affected by this > particular problem; prophylactic replacement is not possible./ > > /We thank you for your patience and for your loyalty to the Leica > brand."/ > > Unfortunately, it doesn?t say exactly from when the "new generation" > replacements are being installed. But it seems to indicate that any > replacements made before 31 August 2015 must have been with older > generation sensors. > > Cheers > Douglas > > > On 01.06.2016 23:03, Jim Nichols wrote: >> Nathan & Douglas, >> >> A search turned up this: >> >> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258531-m9-sensor/ >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> >> On 6/1/2016 3:53 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>> I have no idea when the cutover date was. I am basing my statements >>> on Peter Klein?s post. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> >>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> >>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator >>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> >>> YNWA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 01 Jun 2016, at 22:43, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nathan, I'll pick your brain if I might as a Google search has >>>> failed to clarify this. >>>> I didn't realise the sensor replacement was date critical. The >>>> private one near me here in Ireland had its sensor replaced 6 >>>> months ago by Leica. I presume that's ok? If so, I just might make >>>> him an offer. >>>> >>>> Douglas >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" >>>> <photo at frozenlight.eu> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:22 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 reliability question >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks to all who have replied. So the story is not that >>>>> simple?not only do I need to know whether the sensor has been >>>>> replaced but also whether it has been replaced with the old one or >>>>> the new one. I have asked the seller when the replacement got done. >>>>> >>>>> And no, I do not want to deal with the hassle of sending a camera >>>>> to Germany and then waiting for who knows how long. My previous >>>>> experience sending my M8 for repair back in 2009 or 10 was not >>>>> that great. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> >>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: >>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> >>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator >>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> >>>>> YNWA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 01 Jun 2016, at 14:22, Frank Verizon 2 2016 >>>>>> <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would buy the one that has not had the sensor replaced, if I >>>>>> could determine the replacement is required. Then I would send it >>>>>> in for sensor replacement, getting the complete camera checked >>>>>> out and adjusted for free. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are those that would say buying a non-current digicam is >>>>>> silly. You are buying old technology. Not as good. My argument is >>>>>> that if it does the job you want, when you buy it, the age of the >>>>>> technology is not relevant. >>>>>> >>>>>> The M9 has proven itself to me to be reliable and a great back >>>>>> end for Leica glass. >>>>>> >>>>>> $2500 is a bargain >>>>>> >>>>>> Frank >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:05 AM, Nathan Wajsman >>>>>> <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have always said that once the M9 prices come down to a level >>>>>> that I am prepared to pay, I will buy one. Well, in the past week >>>>>> I have seen two for sale, for $2500 and $2200, respectively. The >>>>>> one I saw this morning has had the sensor replaced. Those prices >>>>>> are within my range, but I now have doubts about reliability. >>>>>> Clearly, buying an M9 that has not had a sensor replacement is >>>>>> out of the question; but in case one has had it, is the new >>>>>> sensor reliable?or is it just a matter of time before it starts >>>>>> rotting just like the original one did? And are there other >>>>>> reliability issues besides the sensor? 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