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Subject: [Leica] Fuji v Leica, and Alamy
From: gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 07:04:29 +0100
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Nathan - I never suggested it was statistically accurate, I just stated the 
simple facts.

Piers - I have a feeling that what you are saying is correct, and of course 
the more you get through their system the more they trust you.

Gerry

> On 23 Apr 2016, at 06:53, piers at hemy.org <piers.hemy at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Or there could indeed be other factors, such as a simple filter on EXIF
> data. From a chat with a senior Alamy staffer some years ago, I know that
> they want (and need) to minimise the manual input to curating the images
> they offer, and certainly in the early days they used a pretty crude tool
> to filter out the less-than-best - only images from specified cameras would
> be considered. Perhaps the converse is at play here, anything from an M9 is
> assumed worth a look. And in the case of Gerry's images, that is an
> automatic pass. But XPro files do not get that assumption, so even Gerry's
> images may not even make the first cut.
> 
> Piers
> 
> On Saturday, 23 April 2016, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> 
>> There may be other variables at play, for example the lenses you are
>> using. In any event, the respective sample sizes do not allow for drawing
>> statistically meaningful conclusions yet.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
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>>> On 22 Apr 2016, at 23:20, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> I am fairly convinced it is a problem with the sensors which are
>> different to others, and a problem with sharpening the images.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>>> On 22 Apr 2016, at 22:11, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry,
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have, or can you get, any indication of what the difference is.
>> It seems
>>>> that there are so many variables, perhaps the cameras/sensors, perhaps
>> the
>>>> editors, perhaps...
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway I am glad that you are getting the images accepted again,
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/04/2016 19:40, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>>>> As most of you will know i was a Fuji X-World photographer shooting
>> with two  X-Pro1s and a variety of lenses, and I was fairly happy. However
>> in July last year I moved back to Leica after about 13 years and purchased
>> a used M9. I had shot with Leica Ms for many years but changed when I made
>> the decision to go digital, and Leica simply did not have a digital body,
>> and appeared to have no intention of producing one. It cost me a lot of
>> money to switch back but I was rapidly approaching 70 and decided if I
>> couldn?t have what I wanted at my age it was a sad world!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have submitted to Alamy for many years, and have around 4,000 images
>> with them. I am always very careful about quality when I submit because
>> they are pretty fussy, but I found that I was only getting about a 50%
>> acceptance rate with the Fuji cameras, and could never work out why. The
>> images looked fine to me on the screen. It was a real problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have now made 17 submissions using Leica images, and have not had a
>> single failure! That makes the change really worthwhile. Others will say
>> ?Of course, you should have known? but I would never have thought it would
>> be that obvious!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> --
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>>>> ===========================================================
>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
>>>> 
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In reply to: Message from gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden) ([Leica] Fuji v Leica, and Alamy)
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Message from gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden) ([Leica] Fuji v Leica, and Alamy)
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