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Subject: [Leica] M7 body coming - Peter
From: gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 21:09:40 +0000
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I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my 
Plustek so just got to get some images now!

Gerry

Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
> 
> Try http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/
> 
> BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but even 
> they will
> only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB)
> 
> Peter
> 
>> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote:
>> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use for my 
>> b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use, and his 
>> opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it is easy 
>> for them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and scans 
>> beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and chatting to 
>> Fuji. I will keep you posted.
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in addition 
>>> to film
>>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film, 
>>>> they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if 
>>>> you go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs and 
>>>> also develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 10? 
>>>> per film and I?m not sure how good is.
>>>> 
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
>>>>> summaventures.com> va escriure:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite limited...basically 
>>>>> to
>>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A 
>>>>> lot of these
>>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble 
>>>>> experience.
>>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly 
>>>>> excellent) local
>>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev shop 
>>>>> and Ilford
>>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who now 
>>>>> run it
>>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a 
>>>>> piece of
>>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a 
>>>>> JPEG. Trouble
>>>>> was that they were only 1M.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the 
>>>>> variation
>>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that 
>>>>> relationship.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing machine
>>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than supply 
>>>>> JPEGs
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 years 
>>>>>> ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before 
>>>>>> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision to 
>>>>>>> shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get started. I 
>>>>>>> am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m a 
>>>>>>>> little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , I 
>>>>>>>> have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and 
>>>>>>>> one of the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an 
>>>>>>>> earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film.?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>>> icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting 
>>>>>>>>> back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup 
>>>>>>>>> in case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i 
>>>>>>>>> shot film for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be 
>>>>>>>>> good to play with it again. Back to the world of exploring which 
>>>>>>>>> film is best handled by the processors I guess because i don't 
>>>>>>>>> want to get into the processing side of life, which I never did 
>>>>>>>>> enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan' 
>>>>>>>>> half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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