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Subject: [Leica] Leica users group, LUG, so what does that mean?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 11:52:15 -0800
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> On Feb 1, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Gene Duprey <geneduprey2015 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I also, have had the privilege of meeting many of the LUG members over the
> past 10 years, and it is a true family, the cameras are secondary, and
> mainly an excuse for us to get together.  Yes, I do still use my M8, but
> also use Nikons, and this group welcomes photos from any brand of camera,
> which makes us a unique group.  We have n amazing bunch of people that make
> up the LUG, and I am proud to be a part of this group, and I think Ted has
> said it just right, we are a Family.


good points all, thanks Gene, Steve



> 
> Gene
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> my answers are here Nathan, similar to yours. I have met 8-15 LUG members
>> over the years, many are my friends. I use, and love my Leica equipment,
>> especially my Noctilux, S?cron 50mm f2 DR, monochrome and M9, the lenses
>> are used on the Leica bodies, also on the Fuji XT-1 and Sony A7R M II
>> bodies.
>> 
>> steve
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There you have your answers. I have met somewhere between 20 and 30 LUG
>> members in person over the years, and many have become real friends.
>>> And BTW, I still use Leica equipment although more often than not it
>> means a Leica lens on a Fuji body.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
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>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>> YNWA
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>>>> On 01 Feb 2016, at 01:54, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI Steve and CREW!
>>>> The LUG? Without question?
>>>> It is a very strong part of my life, heart & soul without question.
>> Gerry and I have had similar life experiences in the loss of our wives. 
>> The
>> difference? Mine occurred here at home in Victoria.
>>>> And Gerry? Well Sir you have felt the "CLOSENESS OF CREW" when it was
>> most needed and felt! WHEN YOU WEREN'T EVEN IN YOUR OWN HOME NOR
>> COUNTRY!<<<<
>>>> And that my friends is how a family works, together strongly bonded
>> when it seems all hell is descending upon us! Many of us respond willingly
>> as though we truly were blood brothers & sisters!
>>>> The "Family" responses from the LUG CREW were enormous! The offerings
>> of sympathy, caring, prayers beyond ones wildest thoughts. They were real
>> warm, close from the heart by so many, quite an amazing aspect of life
>> among "what we might call a family off a computer screen for the most."
>>>> 
>>>> Sure I'd say the few of us who've stood face to face and shared the
>> warm introduction of friendship handshake they truly are that!
>>>> A firm meaning of becoming friends that unfortunately? Is rarely found
>> in the atmosphere of  Planet Earth lately.
>>>> Certainly with the strength by many of this most incredible group even
>> with a bit of a spin-off from the original "LUG" by our very own Brien
>> Reid  who sowed the seeds to grow into the power house group it is! Thank
>> you Brien wherever you are?
>>>> So there you are whomever? And in numbers? "THE LUG FOR ME ISN'T JUST A
>> BUNCH OF CHATTER ON THE SCREEN?" Oh sure some days and weeks it becomes a
>> chatter box to drive you crazy? Now that's quite an honest comment By me??
>> :-)  Probably one of the malcontents about the techies? :-)
>>>> Hey techie guys "I REALLY DO LOVE YOU! I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
>> HELL YER' TALKIN' ABOUT!" OK be nice when you respond! thank you all folks
>> as it's a "WRAP!"
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Dr. ted OC  :-)
>>>> ==============================================
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of Gerry Walden
>>>> Sent: January-31-16 2:21 PM
>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica users group, LUG, so what does that mean?
>>>> 
>>>> When I switched away from leica gear some 12 years ago I said I should
>> leave the LUG but was told that it was a Leica state of mind that was
>> important. This is my ?family? and that came home to me very solidly when
>> my dear wife died on a trip to meet fellow LUG members in Barcelona. The
>> support I received in person from Lluis, Greg and others will never be
>> forgotten by both me and my daughters. It got us through a very difficult
>> time, and nothing was too much trouble. I will be eternally grateful for
>> that - that is ?family?!
>>>> 
>>>> I am back to using Leica now because it is a state of mind: you eiether
>> get it or you don?t.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with most of what you say, but the LUG serves as a source of
>> information and camaraderie for many of us, regardless of the name or 
>> point
>> of origin.  To quote some ancient philosopher, "If it ain't broke, don't
>> fix it".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I started out with used Leica gear more than sixty years ago.  Why?
>> Because I did my due diligence and found it to be the best that I could
>> afford.  It served me well.  But, while raising a family, I limited my
>> purchases, and found used gear of other brands that served my needs.  
>> Then,
>> as film processors disappeared with the advent of digital, I looked for a
>> digital camera.  I found Olympus and Fuji gear that was adaptable, for 
>> much
>> less investment than Leica's products.  I even purchased previously-owned
>> Leica-R lenses to use with these cameras, because I still loved the 
>> quality
>> of Leica lenses. But, for amateur  use, I cannot justify new Leica gear at
>> today's prices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I enjoy reading of the experiences of others who do choose to buy and
>> use the new gear, and try to keep abreast of the times.  And, I think our
>> past dedication to Leica products keeps this list intact and functional,
>> regardless of the name on the camera we are currently holding in our 
>> hands.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/31/2016 2:56 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>>> Leica users group, LUG,  what does that mean?  Several individuals
>> have confided to me recently, "it?s really a state of mind?.  Let?s face
>> it, there are few offerings of interest from Leica these days, that we can
>> afford, or desire to, while more and more  we all find great offerings 
>> from
>> many other camera and lens makers. We all insist we are leica devotees, 
>> yet
>> many of us, if not most, are using other makers' cameras and lenses. We
>> often find that leica lenses from the past, actually work as well on other
>> makers current camera bodies, sometimes better than on leica?s own bodies.
>> We publish a wonderful yearly book of photos, that we call the LUG
>> yearbook, yet insist that the photos can come from any and all camera/lens
>> sources,  and images do originate from many other sources. We criticize
>> robustly, even occasionally correctly, the offerings from Leica, their
>> appearance, technical details, prices, yet we remain here and claim to be
>> Leica users. So what is it that we have in common, that keeps here in this
>> group, why do we self identify as Leica users ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are some truly great photographers here, not because they use
>> leicas, other reasons may exist. We really are a community, sometimes even
>> a family, occasionally very dysfunctional. Some of the most opinionated
>> among us use leicas, or used to, or desire to, even though at present that
>> use is limited, or nonexistent.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are at present, among the most capable, open minded, flexible,
>> sure of ourselves, opinionated, fractious, difficult, stuck up shooters
>> that exist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It may be time to talk.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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