Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/01/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I was responding to Jayanand's comment: "If you want to use manual focus lenses, well, buy a light and perfect M body for it, at the same price. What is the point of buying (or even getting) a huge, hulking AF body for that purpose, that too, one for which hardly any native lenses are planned even a year or two down the road?" The price is about the same for that. Tina On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> wrote: > Price can be a big factor Tina as the price is WAY more in Canada > especially as some of us get older. > > Scott > > > On Jan 23, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> > > wrote: > > > > The Sl is not much heavier or bigger than the M240!! Side by side, they > > look almost the same. The big thing is the 24-90 lens but you don't have > > to use that on the SL. The focusing enhancing EVF features make it easy > to > > focus old M lenses that I couldn't focus manually before. The SL with > the > > 35/1.4 is almost as small and light as my old M bodies and so much easier > > to focus!!! > > > > I hated my Fuji X-Pro 1, but that's just me. > > > > Tina > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at > > gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> Philippe, > >> Ted will not even be able to lift it! At that weight and size, Canons > and > >> Nikons make infinitely more sense! At least they are true system cameras > >> with native lenses of every conceivable size shape and type available > for > >> them, at a multitude of price points. > >> > >> If you want to use manual focus lenses, well, buy a light and perfect M > >> body for it, at the same price. What is the point of buying (or even > >> getting) a huge, hulking AF body for that purpose, that too, one for > which > >> hardly any native lenses are planned even a year or two down the road? > >> > >> Cheers > >> Jayanand > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Philippe Amard < > >> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> X-T1 and X-pro(n) are different cameras john :-) > >>> > >>> I didn't want the later as I was an R user and the X-Ts are closer to a > >>> reflex. > >>> > >>> But I concur with others in many respects. > >>> > >>> Yet, however, and nevertheless, Ted deserves, and needs a red dot SL > ;-) > >>> > >>> Amities > >>> Philippe > >>> > >>> > >>> 2016-01-23 10:29 GMT+01:00 John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>: > >>> > >>>> I had (for a month) an X-T1 with electronic finder, did not enjoy the > >>>> experience at all. As my dealer said, if I was coming from Canikon > >> APS-C > >>>> cameras it would seem stunning, but as I was a Leica user.... It is > >>>> designed to look like a rangefinder, but it does not feel like one > IMO. > >>>> > >>>> John > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> > >>>> Hi Ted, > >>>> > >>>> I don?t know any other cameras than Leicas, but sometimes I had a Fuji > >> (I > >>>> don?t know which model) on my hands, I remember that Fuji has some > >>> cameras > >>>> with Electronic Viewfinder and others with hybrid VF, at least for me > >>> that > >>>> I?m used with the optic VF of Leica M, I dislike the electronic VF, it > >>> is a > >>>> nice camera but I recommend to try it before you go. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> Lluis > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> El 23 gen 2016, a les 0:21, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> va > >> escriure: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Steve & Scott, > >>>>> I saw an add for the X-PRO-2 and my first re-action was???? "GEE THAT > >>>> LOOKS LIKE an M-LEICA? Sure seems to have a bunch of bells and > >> whistles I > >>>> might take a liking to? > >>>>> > >>>>> Now finding out I can or could still use my Noctilux and several > >> other > >>>> Leica M lenses? I may well make this a two camera body purchase? > >> However, > >>>> maybe a start with one on a new project on seniors and elders I'm > about > >>> to > >>>> start next week. I'll have ago with whatever is available. At least > >> it'll > >>>> give me bit of a start. > >>>>> > >>>>> The EXPRO-2 must have a similar kind of feel as an M8????????. > >>>>> It's the first camera I've taken a liking to other than Leica M in a > >>>>> "hundred years!" :-) :-) thank you. > >>>>> cheers, > >>>>> ted > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Steve Barbour > >>>>> Sent: January-22-16 9:29 AM > >>>>> To: LUG list > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fujifilm X-Pro 2 CAMERA? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ted I started investigating Fuji in Canada two years ago. Currently > >>>> using the Fuji XT 1, an XE2 for most of my interior shooting and a > >> small > >>>> X100 T which is a simple and beautiful results camera to have with you > >>> all > >>>> the time with a fixed lens. > >>>>>> I love the rangefinder style and have the X Pro 2 on order. > >>>>>> The Fuji M mount adapter allows me to use my Leica lenses if I wish > >>> too > >>>> and as Nathan said the 90 Leica on the XT 1 is superb. But again as > >>> Nathan > >>>> said the Fuji lenses are superb. > >>>>>> I would not have invested in this system had I not been very pleased > >>>> with the bodies but more than that the results I get. > >>>>>> I still use an M9 from time to time but Fuji is the go to for most > >> of > >>>> my work. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> as others have said, it is certainly worth your looking into this > >>>>> system Ted, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> steve > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Scott > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at > >>>>>>> frozenlight.eu> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I had the X-Pro 1 but have replaced it with the X-T1. I never > >> thought > >>>> I would go with a fully electronic viewfinder but the one on the Fuji > >> is > >>> so > >>>> good, and provides so many useful features, that I converted. Using my > >>>> Leica lenses, especially the 90mm, on this body, is a joy. And of > >> course > >>>> the Fuji X lenses are excellent. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My M8 is now pretty much dedicated to IR photography or when I am > >>> sure > >>>> I will only be in daylight. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>> Nathan > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman > >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain > >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> http:// > >>>>>>> <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu > >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > >>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: > >>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > >>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> > >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator > >>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> > >>>>>>> YNWA > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 22 Jan 2016, at 08:50, Philippe < > >> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ted, I'm also using X gear these days and I concur with Jayanand > >> as > >>>> to the hurdles in the learning curve, as well as to the (excellent) > >>> results. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I would add that the buttons are SMALL, and I know you have pretty > >>>> large hands and surprisingly long fingers. > >>>>>>>> You may read my conclusion between the lines? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also, I've never been able to find or accurately reach those f... > >>>> buttons/switches with my right thumb when my eye is against the VF. > >>>>>>>> Do you remember how awkward the R4/5/6 felt compared to the R8 & > >> R9? > >>>>>>>> I feel just the same with my X-T1 even though it provides all > >> these > >>>> useful features I had not even dared to dream of in my R years. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tina went/stuck back to Leica I think. > >>>>>>>> So did Gerry. > >>>>>>>> For different valuable reasons. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hope this helps while waiting for the new release to be actually > >>>> released .. and to have received "hands-on" experience on the field. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Amities de Mutz > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Philippe now lusting for a (still overpriced) SL, a lot! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Le 22 janv. 2016 ? 04:07, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> a > >> ?crit : > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Crew, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Fujifilm X-Pro 2 camera.?????? > >>>>>>>>> It kind of looks something like an M camera???? well OK in the > >>>>>>>>> magazine promo sheet. :-) Anyone have a shot at using one of > >> these > >>>>>>>>> or any kind of good==bad==ugly comments about it?? > >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> cheers, > >>>>>>>>> Dr. ted :-) > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > -- > > Tina Manley > > http:// > > < > http://t.sidekickopen35.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfmKYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebsites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=b172ae57-352d-46e2-d201-95e2ef1f23a3 > > > > www.tinamanley.com > > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley http:// <http://t.sidekickopen35.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfmKYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebsites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=81de4520-350f-4795-f998-84e12c2ddf4c> www.tinamanley.com http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/