Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/12/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]thanks Ted, Merry Christmas. steve > On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > > Hey CREW, J > > This is "KISS SIMPLE" SUGGESTION 2015! J > > WE ALL STOP COMMENTING AND LET RICHARD DO HIS THIING AS AN "EXPERIMENTAL" > EFFORT OF OUR crew photos? > > We all might be blown out of the water with its "GREATNESS OF ARTISTRY?" > > If it works and looks beautiful in the eyes of the majority? And Richard > wishes to do the book for 2016? We let him do his thing. If he wishes not > to become involved 2016? Well let's leave that for 2016? > > Right now, why not all have another coffee, take another deep breath of > fresh-air and have a nice day. J > > There you go. "KISS SIMPLE!" Sure better than whining bitching and > complaining! > > Thank you. Have a nice day. > > CHEERS, > > Dr.ted > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf Of > Robert Adler > Sent: December-19-15 1:02 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMPORTANT: LUGbook 2015 > > > > Richard, > > > > Please explain what this means, "The image size will be maximized." Are you > > changing the size of images selected? Will that cause distortion or > > cropping. > > > > I am going against the grain of support expressed so far. I don't care if > > my images are together or not. I think a unilateral decision by the person > > who has volunteered to compile the work of our group to suddenly self > > promote themselves to "editor" is pretentious. Quite frankly, I've never > > seen your editing work nor that of your wife who has, as I believe you > > stated, more artistic talent than you. I am concerned that suddenly we have > > an "editor" with no evidence of editing capability. > > > > I always thought of this as a group project. Now it has become more of a > > "bound gallery" project with a self appointed gallery editor. I'm glad you > > recognize that this is a last minute change. But stating, "The image size > > will be maximized" is not something I understand. If I sized an image for > > the right side of a page, will it remain on the right side of a page? Now > > you say the pages will only have titles and we will need to see who took it > > by looking in the back of the book. Another global change without > > discussion. Unilateral, last minute, no explanation of why that's better > > nor asking for input, nor evidencing your experience as to why this is > > better. > > > > I understand those who speak loudest and contribute often to this group are > > expressing support. I do know, from private emails, others are upset with > > this coupe and we will not be seeing their images. > > > > So be my $0.02. > > Best, > > Bob > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at > richardmanphoto.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Tina, thank you for your comment. First, anyone who wants to swap or > >> send an additional photo, please feel free. > >> > >> The image size will be maximized. For caption, my plan is to put the short > >> caption/title (e.g. "Snow Fall") under and the full attribution on a back > >> page. One or two people have specified that they want full bleed on an > >> image or two, so those will be honored, as with any other placement > >> requests. > >> > >> There is one panoramic image (not mine :-) ) that I have decided to put as > >> the center, taking two pages. Otherwise, I do not feel we can appreciate > >> the power of that image. Once I start making decision like that, it just > >> seems natural to follow to the more logical conclusion. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> >> wrote: > >> > >>> I agree that if we had known ahead of time, some of us might have chosen > >>> different photos. I chose mine to go together. If I had thought they > >>> would be in different places in the book, I would have chosen > stand-alone > >>> photos. I'm not objecting strongly, though. It is your decision. How > >>> will the captions work now and will the facing photos be the same size? > >>> > >>> Tina > >>> > >>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Richard Man < > >> richard at richardmanphoto.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear LUG family and contributors: > >>>> > >>>> I have a received a strong objection to making the change. > >> Fundamentally, > >>>> it comes down to two things: > >>>> > >>>> First, the nature of the policy change is unexpected and last minute. > >> It > >>> is > >>>> true, if I have made the decision early on and made the announcement > >>>> earlier, then people who may object to this policy can debate or > >> withhold > >>>> contributions. For this I apologize. > >>>> > >>>> Second, there are questions of my exerting artistic preference over > >> that > >>> of > >>>> the contributors. I need to digest this, as the mere fact that an > >> editor > >>>> has to sequence the contributors in some ways regardless, even if we > do > >>> it > >>>> simply by the first name or last name or other arbitrary ordering, > >> it's a > >>>> decision on our parts. > >>>> > >>>> The person is correct that this is not "my book", but nominally a "LUG > >>> year > >>>> book" although even there we have strayed a bit in previous years by > >>>> inviting other people into the fold. > >>>> > >>>> I am somewhat torn on this and I welcome any discussion. I am not > >> looking > >>>> for sympathy, or people to "beat up" on the person. I know from > >> feedback > >>>> that someone will be unhappy regardless. However, personally I am more > >>>> concerned that it is true that I did not make the policy change early, > >>> and > >>>> this would appear to be a "bait and switch". > >>>> > >>>> Thank you. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Gene Duprey <geneduprey2015 at >>>> gmail.com > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Make it your production, If you want to mix the photos, then I'm OK > >>> with > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gene > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Geoff Hopkinson < > >> hopsternew at gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Your call! Why not put your own stamp on the production? > >>>>>> Shall be interested to see how this works out...my ex-editor brain > >> is > >>>>>> fascinated! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > ............................................................................ > ...................................................... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> While working on the book, I am making an executive decision: I > >> will > >>>>>> sequence the images in some order, and not 2 consecutive images > per > >>>>>> submitter like previous years. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Per usual, I will not edit the images in any way, and the caption > >> and > >>>> any > >>>>>> image placement preference (e.g. some people want full bleed) will > >> be > >>>>>> honored. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you have strong feeling that your photos must be kept together, > >>>> please > >>>>>> email me. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >>>>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > >>>>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> Geoff > >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> information > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > >>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Tina Manley > >>> http:// > >>> < > >>> > >> > http://t.sidekickopen32.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfm > KYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebs > ites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=ae97ce3e-b1e2-4502-8cce-e6a0df4eaf3e > >>>> > >>> www.tinamanley.com > >>> http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > >> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Adler > > www.robertadlerphotography.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information