Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/30

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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux
From: red735i at verizon.net (Frank Verizon)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:26:06 -0500
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Good. It operates as I thought. 

On the subject of manual mode....or, you get to do all the work...

You must keep in mind that the EVF gives you a VF image that is always the 
same brightness, without regard to scene brightness... Black cat in coal bin 
at midnight = same brightness as baseball game at noon.  Good for focusing, 
bad for setting camera up.

This is certainly really different than an SLR or an M.

Keep up the  learning... I doubt there is a long learning curve.....

On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

You are right.  With a manual focus lens, you can only choose A or M;
however when I use A and I have the Noctilux set for 1.0, it records in the
EXIF as 1.4 or 1.7.  With the SL lens, I often used T because the P program
chose a much slower shutter speed than I would normally use.

Tina

> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Frank Verizon <red735i at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> In S(T?) mode ( you set speed, camera sets aperture), using a MF lens, did
> the camera actually set the aperture by itself?
> I am wondering if there is some linkage from digital camera to mechanical
> aperture on the lens....which I think there is not....
> My assumption is that when using a MF R lens, with the current adapters,
> you must use Aperture preferred metering ( camera sets shutter speed,
> people set aperture).
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> On Nov 30, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Frank.  I tried several ways of handling exposure.  I started out
> using P and letting the camera set everything with the SL lens.  With the
> manual focus lenses, I chose between A for Aperture and T for shutter
> speed, depending on the circumstances.  I did not do too well using M for
> manual because the EVF is so bright, I would forget to check the exposure
> and severely underexposed everything!  I found that when I set the camera
> for P, it often chose an ISO of 50 and a much slower shutter speed than I
> would have chosen, so I ended up using A or T for the SL lens also.
> 
> The R9 with the digital back and no lens weighs 1402 grams.
> The LS with no lens weighs 883 grams.
> The Canon 1DMII with no lens weighs 1586 grams.
> 
> The LS with the 24-90 lens weighs 2095!  It's a heavy lens; however, the
> Canon with my favorite Canon lens 85/1.2 weighs 2623 grams.  It's a
> monster!
> 
> Tina


In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Verizon) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Verizon) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)