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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:12:06 -0600
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OK, I was just looking at the Exif data.  My bad!  The bell post and 
rope always come out sharp.  Nice focusing, in all cases.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 11/30/2015 3:02 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> They are made with the same aperture, Jim.  The ones with the R lens never
> recorded the aperture correctly and the M lens did not record correctly at
> times but I deliberately used the same settings for series of photos.  I
> used f/8 for each camera and len and tried hyperfocal focusing but none of
> the EXIF ever recorded an aperture of f/8.
>
> Tina
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Tina,
>>
>> It is difficult for me to make comparisons of images from two cameras when
>> one is shot at f/6.8 and the other at f/2.  I think you need to select
>> common settings for such comparisons to have any real meaning.  DoF  makes
>> a big difference.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2015 2:34 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>
>>> PESO:
>>>
>>> I took some photos in the rain to compare the SL with the R19/2.8, the SL
>>> with the 35/2.0 Summicron and the M240 with the Summicron.  As I was
>>> carrying the cameras out to the deck, I passed the kitchen scale so I
>>> weighed them.  The SL with no lens weighed 966 grams.  The M240 with the
>>> 35/2.0 attached weighed 961 grams, so not a huge difference.
>>>
>>> When I attach the M lenses, the SL automatically recognized the coded
>>> lenses with no further attention from me.  When I attach the R lenses, I
>>> go
>>> to the menu and tell it which R lens is attached.  It recognizes the lens
>>> but does not record the correct aperture.  I know I took several at F/8
>>> and
>>> used hyperfocal focusing, but none of them came up as having f/8 for the
>>> aperture.
>>>
>>> The SL is much easier to focus.  I tried out both the magnifying in the
>>> EVF
>>> and the focus peaking.  Both work fine but the magnified EVF is much
>>> easier
>>> to see.  You press the bottom right button once and it zooms to 100% in
>>> the
>>> EVF, press it twice and it zooms to 200%.  Focus and touch the shutter
>>> button and it zooms back out and takes the photo.
>>>
>>> With the auto-focus SL lens, there are several focusing formats to choose
>>> from in the SL and  you can also touch the screen and have it focus there
>>> or move the toggle switch (they call it the joystick) next to the EFG to
>>> choose a focus spot.  I find the screen and the toggle switch to be
>>> easiest
>>> and fastest.  But these are all manually focused with M and R lenses.
>>>
>>> The first one is an experiment with the Noctilux last night using the
>>> magnified EVF to focus on Tom's eyelashes instead of the glasses frame.
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/161961923
>>>
>>> The next three are straight from the camera as DNGs, converted to jpegs 
>>> as
>>> they are exported with no other adjustments.
>>>
>>> Leica SL with 19/2.8 Elmarit R:
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961755
>>>
>>> Leica SL with 35/2.0 Summicron M:
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961757
>>>
>>> Leica M240 with 35/2.0 Summicron M:
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961758
>>>
>>> I did some bracketed exposures and merged the photos for HDR with each
>>> camera and each lens.  These are adjusted for color and exposure:
>>>
>>> *http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7
>>> <http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7>*
>>>
>>> The SL will also bracket the 3 exposures as DNGs and make a merged jpeg
>>> from them automatically.  I found those needed more adjusting than making
>>> them myself.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>>
>>>
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In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)