Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/25

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Subject: [Leica] XP-2
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:58:48 -0600
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$500 doesn't buy much of a power cord :).
http://www.essentialsound.com/essence-power-cord/

Ken

On 11/25/2015 1:22 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> No you're missing out on the meaningless bullshit. It's like guys that 
> think their stereo sounds better with a $500 power cord from the amp 
> to the wall, but are clueless about the wires from the wall to the 
> breaker box to the street. It's like the monks arguing over the number 
> of angels on the head of a pin. I was just thinking, as I read the 
> business about Samsung exiting the camera business how things have 
> changed. I think that today you can get results from FF/APS/MFT that 
> are more than good enough for anyone.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Dante Stella
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:48 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2
>
> Does a 1/3 stop even make a difference? Or is 320 a lucky number that 
> people remember from TXP120? Serious question.
>
> I see references everywhere to rating 400 film of various types at 
> 320, and it seems a bit strange because few film cameras are accurate 
> and consistent enough to predict a blanket rule with an almost 
> insignificant amount of overexposure. Virtually anything with a leaf 
> shutter is already overexposing by at least that much -- meaning that 
> "320" really means 250, and 2/3 stop is much more noticeable than 1/3. 
> And with all mechanical shutters, each speed can have a different 
> error in a different direction. The other thing is that C-41 
> processing, at least commercial processing, is not that consistent 
> either.
>
> And having put a densitometer to silver negatives exposed at one-third 
> stop increments with very accurate electronic shutters, it does not 
> tend to drag meaningful detail out of the toe. And it makes zero 
> difference to tones on a straight-line film like TMY. Maybe things are 
> different with XP2, but even eyeballing its curve, it seems doubtful 
> that (an actual) 1/3 stop would do very much.
>
> Or maybe I'm missing the magic here? I take the suggestion seriously 
> coming from you, but it still seems slightly superstitious.
>
> Best,
> Dante
>
>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Overexposure lowers grain but also lowers contrast.  I used 320 
>> most.  You
>> can use the typical negative film approach -- expose for the shadows and
>> let the highlights go where they may.  It's hard to burn them out 
>> with that
>> film.
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Bryk Oliver 
>>> <oliverbryk at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How should I rate XP-2 if none of the images will be printed?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advice based on experience,
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
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