Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/25

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Subject: [Leica] BIG new Leica
From: geneduprey2015 at gmail.com (Gene Duprey)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:35:27 -0500
References: <D2518301.4B00D%mark@rabinergroup.com> <D896D0AF-09D7-40EF-9BCB-37707E24BE63@frozenlight.eu> <93D1412E-FB6F-4C57-939D-D2D71E9F07DA@gmail.com> <DAFBFC90-C081-4FD2-90FA-1E81D70AA2B4@gmail.com>

I still use my M8, and it has had ZERO issues, going one 8 years?  It's the
same old story that you continue to harp on Mark, but then you have never
used one.  Try one you just may like it.

Gene


On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> . .  . And everyone else's stink but your own.
>
> from my iPad
>
> Sonny Carter
>
> > On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You?re such a sad wanker, Mark. Your hate of the M8 is pathological. On
> the one hand you come across as a total Leica fan boy, but on the other
> hand you have no experience with any of the cameras about which you
> pontificate.
> >
> >
> > as we say,
> >
> >
> > "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one".
> >
> >
> > steve
> >>
> >> Here are three random images from my PAD site:
> >>
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-2nQcdR3/A
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-cMmWJBk/A
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-6BSFF6B/A
> >>
> >> (all three from this year)
> >>
> >> Nathan
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >> YNWA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 25 Oct 2015, at 00:48, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The last time anyone posted a shot taken with an M8 was when?
> >>> There are about none in use.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/24/15 6:34 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark, the point is you've never used it, many people are using it now
> with
> >>>> great results, and you were called out for a negative opinion of a
> Leica you'd
> >>>> never used vs. your claim that people give you a hard time for a
> positive
> >>>> opinion of Leica equipment.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug Herr
> >>>> Birdman of Sacramento
> >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Oct 24, 2015 3:08 PM
> >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The M8 was one disaster after another almost weekly new issues and
> was
> >>>>> looked upon by the entire photo community was awe and dismay as the
> bad news
> >>>>> kept coming in  it like no camera anyone ever heard of.  It way out
> Edseled
> >>>>> the Edsel.  Yet it did keep Leica in the lens selling business new
> lenses
> >>>>> and paved the way for the almost commercially viable M9  (largely
> ignored by
> >>>>> pros) and at least was not an embarrassment which paved the way for
> the
> >>>>> completely commercially viable M out now.. But by then though all the
> >>>>> serious Leica shooters had gone DSLR and were not in a hurry to
> invest in
> >>>>> seven grand bodies with six grand glass which required more than one
> body as
> >>>>> at least of them is going to be in a far off shop for not a short
> time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For Leica to have gotten its very first digital attempt right and
> seamlessly
> >>>>> jumped right into the digital camera business would have been much
> more
> >>>>> interesting and unlikely news. It was a huge leap for Leica to make
> and
> >>>>> guess what it didn't make it all that wonderfully and instantly.
> >>>>> And I dare to disparage the M8!  If somebody wants to read positive
> stuff on
> >>>>> the M8 they're going to have to read it here became they're not
> going to
> >>>>> find it anywhere else. Its a blooper the modern Leica company would
> love to
> >>>>> forget. And please tell us about how you're using it for infra red.
> >>>>> I think the die hards all but one or two have been stuck with the
> fact that
> >>>>> their camera have locked up and died and its a lesson hopefully well
> >>>>> learned. Be careful about buying first outs from companies who have
> close to
> >>>>> zero experience in a new burgeoning technology but plenty of
> experience in
> >>>>> the opposite.
> >>>>> Had the camera been successful it would have been a minor modern
> miracle.
> >>>>> With a little luck it would have had a few less issues. But that
> luck with
> >>>>> not to be found that time round.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/24/15 5:46 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> I remain the only person on any photo list who gets is opinions
> thrown back
> >>>>>>> at him if he doesn't have a notarized receipt of the item at hand.
> It makes
> >>>>>>> me feel very special. I've notice the most I get in trouble on
> this list is
> >>>>>>> when I say something positive about a Leica product.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's also when you say something negative about something you've
> never used,
> >>>>>> Leica or otherwise.  Do you recall the M8?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Doug Herr
> >>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
> >>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >>>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
> information
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>>> Photographer
> >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>> Photographer
> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Leica Users Group.
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> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
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