Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Erwin has referred over the years a lot to this size constraint on Leica glass especially I think to the wides. On 10/23/15 12:11 PM, "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote: > I read an interview with the Leica lens designer many years ago where he > said > it was much easier to design an exceptional lens if size is not a > constraint. > He said the biggest limitation on getting the best possible performance > from M > lenses was that they had to be physically small. The latest trend in SLR > lenses has been ultra sharp lenses for the high resolution sensors and the > primes by Zeiss and Sigma Art are v-a-s-t. FWIW > On 22 Oct 2015, at 22:31, > Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > The first made for the camera > lens is this big zoom but soon to come will be > prime lenses which I do > believe might be worth the wait which I don't think > will be very long. The > thing after all is a Leica and deserves to not have a > super front heavy > configuration to it. Sure Leica R's and SL's had big zooms > people used for > them but was not the first thing they grabbed as they rushed > out the door.. > People put 50's and 60's on them. and prime wides. > Lenses which said > "Summicron" on them. And Super-Angulon. > > And you'll feel something akin to > the electric thrill I once enjoyed when > Gilmore, Liberatti, Pat Conway, The > Great Creatore, W.C. Handy and John > Philip Sousa all came to town on the > very same historic day. > > > On 10/22/15 4:36 PM, "Tina Manley" > <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > >> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses > on it with adapters but they > won't >> be autofocus. Supposedly the very > large, bright viewfinder makes it > easier to >> manually focus them. > > > Tina > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner >> > <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> The Leica SL with a small lens on it > would >> be near pocketable (jacket >> exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But > like the >> M >> >> I think we need to not define a camera body by the > stupidly huge lens >> >> someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a > modest to compact optic on> >> front of it instead of a metal munching fast > zoom or a zoom with an overly >> >> wide range... And VR makes a lens way > heavier and I think bulkier. >> >> I'm >> saying put more Leicalike glass in > front of these bodies and we can see >> how >> they compare with an M with a > typical M optic on it. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/22/15 >> 3:50 PM, "Aram > Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Interesting. He >> also seems > to state it has better image quality than >> the M. >>> Here is a >> > quote: >>> >>> "The SL is not a cheap camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and > a >> further >>> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the > very >> wealthy, >> though >>> in reality I suspect most of Leica?s existing > audience >> will see this one >> as >>> a no-brainer. M lenses are now > virtually native, as >> are R lenses; they?re >>> easy to focus and image > quality is better than from >> the M cameras. It >> would >>> have been nice > to see more resolution, but I >> suspect this might have >> eaten >>> > uncomfortably into S system sales. I >> actually suspect this camera is > the >>> beginning of the end of the M >> resurgence ? a typical complaint from > M >> users >>> I know is one of >> deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in > achieving >> focus. >>> We no longer >> have that problem. And for those used > to paying $7,000+ for >> a >>> body, the >> SL isn?t a stretch at all." >>> > >>> He also goes on a bit about the size. >> BIG >>> >>> Aram Langhans >>> > (Semi) Retired Science Teacher >>> & Unemployed >> photographer >>> >>> ?The > Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right >> than Darwin >> > himself >>> would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson >> >>> >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> From: John McMaster >> > [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM >>> > >> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG > new >> Leica - TINA >>> >>> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as > S >> lenses! >>> >>> >> > https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg >>> >>> > SL >> compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens.... >>> >>> (from >>> >> > http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-601/ >> > ) >> >>> >>> john >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> It's > really not that >> big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this idea >>> > that a mirrorless >> camera has to be a tiny little thing. >>> SL size > compared to a digital M: >>> >> https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8 >>> >>> I look > forward to seeing what you can do >> with it, Tina. >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> On > 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote: >> >>>> Has anybody posted a photo of > it compared to the size of the M9 or the> >> >> M240? The Sony and Fuji > mirrorless cameras are actually too small and >>>> >> too light for me. >>>> > >>>> Tina >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> > See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> > See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > > -- > Tina >> Manley > www.tinamanley.com > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.alamy.com/ >> > stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > _____ >> __________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > > See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information _______________________________________________ Leica Users > Group. 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