Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]And judging from the length of that lens, Leica, like Zeiss, is going to a more retrofocus design. My assumption is that while the thinner cover glass on the Leicas minimizes the edge problems, it does not eliminate the negative impact of the cover glass and obtuse ray angles -- even from a 50 mm lens. Light falloff is also less with the more retrofocus designs. Paul www.PaulRoark.com On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:03 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote: > They look to be going for the Zeiss Otus market? Have you seen the size of > the 50mm Summilux, and it won't be available for a year! > > http://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-SL/Lenses/LEICA-SUMMILUX-SL > > Very similar styling in the lenses to the S range > > john > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On > Behalf > Of > Mark Rabiner > Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 11:31 p.m. > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: BIG new Leica - TINA > Importance: Low > > The first made for the camera lens is this big zoom but soon to come will > be > prime lenses which I do believe might be worth the wait which I don't think > will be very long. The thing after all is a Leica and deserves to not have > a > super front heavy configuration to it. Sure Leica R's and SL's had big > zooms > people used for them but was not the first thing they grabbed as they > rushed > out the door.. People put 50's and 60's on them. and prime wides. > Lenses which said "Summicron" on them. And Super-Angulon. > > And you'll feel something akin to the electric thrill I once enjoyed when > Gilmore, Liberatti, Pat Conway, The Great Creatore, W.C. Handy and John > Philip Sousa all came to town on the very same historic day. > > > On 10/22/15 4:36 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > > > You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with adapters but > > they > won't > > be autofocus. Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder makes it > easier to > > manually focus them. > > Tina > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner > > <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > > The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable (jacket > > exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M > > > > I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens > > > > someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic > > on> front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with > > an overly > > > > wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think bulkier. > > > > I'm > > saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we can > > see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/22/15 > > 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Interesting. He > > also seems to state it has better image quality than the M. > > > Here is a > > quote: > > > > > > "The SL is not a cheap camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and a > > further > > > EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very > > wealthy, > > though > > > in reality I suspect most of Leica?s existing audience > > will see this one > > as > > > a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as > > are R lenses; they?re > > > easy to focus and image quality is better than from > > the M cameras. It > > would > > > have been nice to see more resolution, but I > > suspect this might have > > eaten > > > uncomfortably into S system sales. I > > actually suspect this camera is the > > > beginning of the end of the M > > resurgence ? a typical complaint from M users > > > I know is one of > > deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving focus. > > > We no longer > > have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+ for a > > > body, the > > SL isn?t a stretch at all." > > > > > > He also goes on a bit about the size. > > BIG > > > > > > Aram Langhans > > > (Semi) Retired Science Teacher > > > & Unemployed > > photographer > > > > > > ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right > > than Darwin > > himself > > > would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John McMaster > > [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM > > > > > To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new > > Leica - TINA > > > > > > It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S > > lenses! > > > > > > > > https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg > > > > > > SL > > compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens.... > > > > > > (from > > > > > http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-601 > > / > > ) > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > It's really not that > > big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this idea > > > that a mirrorless > > camera has to be a tiny little thing. > > > SL size compared to a digital M: > > > > > https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8 > > > > > > I look forward to seeing what you can do > > with it, Tina. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote: > > > > >> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 or > > >> the> >> > > M240? The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually too small and > > >> > > too light for me. > > >> > > >> Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See > > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark William Rabiner > > Photographer > > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See > > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > Tina > > Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.alamy.com/ > > stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.htm > > l > > _____ > > __________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >