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Subject: [Leica] Barnack Award
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 09:32:56 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1Cwu-LvcWaptodqKiCqp1U02wqbeiQmHHmVKQ+3gk_B8g@mail.gmail.com> <0653E629-4CE1-4F38-9363-7A78C86CD881@bex.net> <000a01d0bba0$bc0ec370$342c4a50$@ca> <FC242031-3D2E-4835-B1C9-92D0A3191810@frozenlight.eu> <000f01d0bbf4$a5231ae0$ef6950a0$@ca>

total bullshit, who in their right mind??..?

> On Jul 11, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Absolutely Nathan!! This garbage should've been deleted the first moment 
> it appeared on screen. Even considering it for the Barnack Award is an 
> insult to those of us who are real photographers!
> cheers,
> Dr. ted  :-(
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nathan Wajsman
> Sent: July-10-15 11:59 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Barnack Award
> 
> Tell us how you really feel, Ted ;-)
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> But yes: as is the case with much art photography today (as opposed to 
> other modern art which I enjoy exploring), it is very much a case of 
> Emperor?s New Clothes.
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> Cheers,
> Nathan
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> Nathan Wajsman
> 
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
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> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
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> YNWA
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>> On 11 Jul 2015, at 08:13, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Howard my dear friend,
>> You couldn't have said it better! Oh sorry yes it could've been. ;-)  But 
>> I truly believe the administrator would've been mighty upset at the 
>> descriptive force of the language!   :-)
>> 
>> The other major point here is? The absolute dumb ass "so called judges" 
>> who selected these questionable images must be the most dead brained 
>> morons on Planet Earth! Whether they work for the LEICA CORPORATION OR 
>> NOT!
>> cheers,
>> Dr ted Grant 
>> TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Howard Ritter
>> Sent: July-10-15 7:46 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Barnack Award
>> 
>> No compositional technique
>> No technical accomplishment
>> No interesting situations or contexts
>> No pleasing juxtapositions of elements, colors
>> No dynamism (OK, once maybe)
>> No decisive moment
>> No personal insight or revelations re subjects
>> Overwrought art-appreciation 101 interpretive comments and interview 
>> responses
>> Hyperbolic characterization of the nature of the series 
>> ?Truth of an undisguised moment?? No, just artless snapshots (not 
>> ?snapshot-like?, but actual snapshots!) of passers-by on bikes and 
>> scooters
>> Standing in ankle-deep water? Oh, the humanity!
>> 
>> For heaven?s sake, these are FLASH SNAPS OF PASSING PEOPLE ON BIKES IN 
>> THE RAIN AT NIGHT! Now, that would have been an honest title! The only 
>> thing even moderately interesting is that they were taken by a young 
>> Polish woman in China who had the nerve (and rudeness) to ambush wet, 
>> inconvenienced, and annoyed people with a flash camera, without the 
>> language skills to ask permission or explain herself. That kind of 
>> ?interesting? is probably not something that Oskar would like to have 
>> given his honorific to.
>> 
>> ?howard
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Her snapshot-like images speak of the truth of an undisguised moment."
>>> 
>>> http://blog.leica-camera.com/leica-videos/wiktoria-wojciechowska-leica-oskar-barnack-newcomer-award-2015/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LeicaCamera+%28Leica+Camera+Blog%29
>>> 
>>> Opinions?
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Tina Manley
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
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