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Subject: [Leica] Possible M8 purchase - HELP!
From: john at mcmaster.fr (John McMaster)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 19:55:24 +0200
References: <69F7B63C-8B3C-4651-A30B-5A94A7CE05DD@icloud.com> <CAF8hL-GbmwQ0tvASAr6VWosng3wk_kWB3jKG74ba1o8EEbaEJw@mail.gmail.com> <72EA0151-859E-4DAF-91D0-FA2454960A51@icloud.com> <DUB110-W563A24F79DE671E11FEB508D9F0@phx.gbl> <9E5B5967-7E11-49A5-AA70-288937741ED3@icloud.com> <635AC773-1C48-4FD7-8D90-5BDBC06B638C@cartersxrd.net> <663CE32D-0A66-4960-A226-90E593F87341@icloud.com> <315328191.319456480.1436542387684.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> <86656808-0AE6-4880-8E7F-4CEBD2912978@frozenlight.eu> <4A0AECAC-E96F-417E-9BDC-4812D9C8BACC@icloud.com>

I have had no problems with my Leica cameras other than; Dropped my M9 (now 
5yo) in a padded bag and re-calibrated under warranty, my M(240) went out of 
calibration and covered under warranty, my Monochrom is nearly 3 years old 
with no issues and my s/h M8 (with 1/8000th) has worked fine so far. Also my 
R9/DMR has no issues but is not used much now . There are some issues but I 
think their percentage gets blown out of proportion as the others keep 
quiet.... I tried Fuji (X-T1) and it (or its lenses) is not a Leica ;-)

If you want to get into FF Leica then start there, if you are happy with 
Fuji save some money ;-)

john

-----Original Message-----

Nathan

The more I read the down side the more I think of staying with Fuji. I know 
them there and can just drive to their HQ if I need to!

Gerry

Gerry Walden
023 8046 3076

> On 10 Jul 2015, at 18:27, Nathan Wajsman <nwajsman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mine, on the other hand, needed a trip to Solms just because some sweat 
> from my face dripped onto it on a hot Alicante day. It got into the body 
> through the shutter release and corroded the top part of the innards. 
> Fortunately I had bought it in the UK and it was still within the 2-year 
> Passport warranty period.
> 
> Gerry, if I were you, I would only buy an M8 from a dealer that gives you 
> the right to return the camera.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jul 2015, at 17:33, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>> 
>> Gerry,
>> I've had mine since Feb. 2007 and had zero problems with it.  It has been 
>> soaked with water from Niagra Falls and bounced around traveling all over 
>> the place.  I take it everywhere.  Super reliable in my case.
>> 
>> Gene
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerry Walden" <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:47:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Possible M8 purchase - HELP!
>> 
>> Thanks Ric. I have sort of decided that an M8 may not be such a good idea 
>> because of possible problems. I may hang on for a M9 or go backwards to a 
>> M6 and shoot chromogenic film (or I may just abandon the whole idea) but 
>> still thinking.
>> 
>> Thanks again
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Gerry Walden
>> 023 8046 3076
>> 
>>> On 10 Jul 2015, at 14:03, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> i would be wary of shutters reaching 1/8000
>>> 
>>> I have had two out of two fail.
>>> 
>>> ric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Jean-Michel, that is very interesting. The price is around 
>>>> ?970 (?700) so the price is pretty good. They have another at ?1049 but 
>>>> that is just a bit to expensive.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry Walden
>>>> 023 8046 3076
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Jul 2015, at 12:11, Jean-Michel Mertz <j2m46 at hotmail.fr> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Gerry, I've used an M8 for about 5 years: this is an excellent 
>>>>> camera! I've done more than 25 000 actuations now without any 
>>>>> problems. And the results are very good! If the price is OK - I'd say 
>>>>> about ? 1500 for the body ... then I'd go ahead!
>>>>> JM
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jean-Michel Mertz
>>>>> Strasbourg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: gerry.walden at icloud.com
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:34:16 +0100
>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Possible M8 purchase - HELP!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ricahrd
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks for commenting. I guess that any camera may suffer an 
>>>>>> electronic failure these days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry Walden
>>>>>> 023 8046 3076
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2015, at 10:19, Richard Man <richard at 
>>>>>>> richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is always a chance that old electronics may fail, but 
>>>>>>> other than that, if the price is right, why not?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am shooting mostly 4x5 and medium format nowadays. These 
>>>>>>> electronic stuff confuses me. (*)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (*) a joke, as I am hard at work for our product that is, 
>>>>>>> basically, teach students/hobbyists on programming these electronic 
>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerry Walden 
>>>>>>> <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have the inexplicable urge to get my hands back on Leica, and 
>>>>>>>> I am looking at an M8 plus a Zeiss Biogon 28mm f2 lens from a 
>>>>>>>> dealer in Brighton. They are going to email me more details but 
>>>>>>>> I do know there have been 17977 actuations, and it is described 
>>>>>>>> as Exc+. The price of both looks pretty sensible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is sort of no logic in this, it is just I want to have a 
>>>>>>>> Leica. I would stress that I am very happy with my Fuji gear. 
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any helpful comments to make, or an advice of 
>>>>>>>> pitfalls I should be aware of (apart from becoming an addict 
>>>>>>>> again!)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com <http://www.gwpics.com/> Fujifilm X-World 
>>>>>>>> Photographer
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>> 




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