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Subject: [Leica] The Q Leica
From: wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:44:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

Meanwhile Sony has announced the a7rII, w/ a7II form factor, 42MP BSI 
sensor, PDAF, silent mode shutter and 5-axis stabilization (3-axis for 
non-native lenses) about $3200, shipping in August.

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com
http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com


-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com>
>Sent: Jun 10, 2015 11:35 AM
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>Subject: Re: [Leica] The Q Leica
>
>Mark you've just got to get a job selling Leica! "Soon everyone will have 
>one in their coat pocket" could be the next buzz words in their ads!
>I, too would like to see the quality of the Q next to the same shot from an 
>M. 
>Maybe the Q would be better. And it might not have any oil spots or dust on 
>the sensor, at least we can hope!!
>
>Scott
>
>
>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm thinking if you made a 13x19 inch print with your M and hung another 
>> one
>> same size right next to it made with the also full frame Q the quality 
>> would
>> very possibly not be at all lacking when you are looking at those two 
>> prints
>> side to side.  You might just be looking at matching image quality.
>> Leica won't sell lenes as a result of a Q sale but those puppies will fly
>> out the Am Leitz Park faster than the M's. Soon everybody will have one in
>> their coat pocket. Problem is summer is upon us.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/10/15 11:02 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Q Leica is out and I'm excited.
>>> Its a direct response to the full frame Sony DSC-RX1  compact rangefinder
>>> camera which came out September 12, 2012 and didn't create a new market
>>> niche as I thought it would. It has stood alone. One thing hipster camera
>>> buyers really don't care about is the bottom line image quality so they
>>> revert to cropped $999 formats  a thing I'll do when the camera can be 
>>> worn
>>> as a tie clip. And go off by itself when I wink my left eye.
>>> The new Q is very much like the RX1 in that the lens is an all out 
>>> assault
>>> taking no prisoners approach with compactness not being one of the first
>>> parameters oddly enough on a compact camera. So it becomes quite an 
>>> effete
>>> item with this amazing chuck of glass on the front of it making for a 
>>> much
>>> bigger pocket you'd get to slide it in. I'd have done the opposite and 
>>> put a
>>> collapsible 3.5 on the front of it or 2.8 like on Rollie 35. And not 
>>> have it
>>> be a mini monster. The point of the camera is that its with you . Taking
>>> better pix by far than your cell phone.
>>> Selling for 4 and quarter grand $ if it slows down sales on M's Leica 
>>> won't
>>> be loosing any money.
>>> I'd kill for one. If there's a dead body on the sidewalk with a Q missing
>>> you'll know I  did it. If you buy one I'd walk on well lit streets in 
>>> public
>>> places. And put a blonde mustache on your glasses nose.
>>> 
>>> With big drum rolls Leica in the past years introduced a couple of camera
>>> systems which they said would put a dent in what pros used for their
>>> photography. They were not a response to the Sony RX1. The Sony RX1 could
>>> take them to the cleaners as these were cropped cameras and no one thinks
>>> the results we get from an M or a DSLR is going to be threatened by a
>>> cropped camera. Its apples and oranges. Or as the French say Apples and
>>> Pears.... In this cropped camera cast aluminum with an iPhone interface.
>>> The Q will be a camera which will made with results not overshadowed by 
>>> the
>>> M system just like a Rollei 35 did against any full sized 35mm camera. 
>>> Why?
>>> The format was the same. Plus Zeiss glass. Just don't jerk the camera 
>>> when
>>> you take the picture.
>>> Leica was in no hurry to do this. As its taken years. I think they know 
>>> now
>>> for sure they're in this for the long haul.
>>> But doing it is a smart move became if there is a company which is 
>>> making a
>>> compact full frame rangefinder top quality competitive to full sized 
>>> cameras
>>> it should be Leica. Leica is the company which invented quality compact
>>> photography. It should not be the company which finds it ill advised as 
>>> we
>>> mustn't compete with ourselves.
>>> 
>>> By the way  I just read the whole time the Sony has been out which is 
>>> almost
>>> 3 years no firmware fixes to some quirky issues.
>>> BAD Sony!
>>> Lets see if they respond to Leica. Or if any body else does. I'd love to 
>>> see
>>> a third full frame compact rangefinder in the camera store.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>> 
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