Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/06/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]How about a Schneider lens with a red dot?? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/893164-USA/Leica_11079_120mm_F_5_6_Elmar_S.html john -----Original Message----- From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 12:43 p.m. To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system Gorgeousness is in the eye of the beholder Douglas. I think Apple products are gorgeous. Vespa products. I like the way Sony stuff looks. JSK Schneider stuff. Nikon stuff. But most of all Leica stuff for product gorgeousness. The Red dot is a great plus. But the Blue dot is a mean contender. If there's anything more gorgeous than a JSK Schneider lens I don't know what it is. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818360-REG/Schneider_06_1064382_PC_TS_ Super_Angulon.html OR http://tinyurl.com/o3spouo On 6/3/15 7:40 PM, "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie> wrote: > "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> ventured on the love that dares not > speak its name... >>> >A lenes first job is to be drop dead gorgeous. Its second job it to >make gorgeous images! > Same with cameras! <<< Eh, erm, > Mark, so could you define what exactly makes a lens drop dead gorgeous > looking? That said I'm sure there's some sort of chatroom that devotes itself > to this sort of thing, but let's save time. Do share.... Douglas > > On > 6/3/15 5:57 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sheesh. Another new > comer... just like Sony... > ;-) > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at >> 2:26 PM, Sonny > Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wikipedia knows all, >> >> >> > "Takumar is the name that Asahi Optical gave to its lenses, notably > but >> > not >> >> exclusively those for its own SLR cameras. Named after the > Japanese >> >> craftsman Takuma Kajiwara (???? ,Kajiwara Takuma" >> >> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takumar> >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20 > PM, >> John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >> >> > I think you may be > looking at >> the lenses from the wrong side ;-) They are >> > for using > rather than looking >> at...... >> > >> > john >> > >> > -----Original > Message----- >> > From: LUG >> > [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On >> > Behalf Of > Mark >> Rabiner >> > Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 9:18 a.m. >> > To: Leica > Users Group >> >> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera > system >> > >> > Oh boy >> a Pentax!! Will I be able to get Super Takumar > lenses? NO! >> > I know I just >> checked the Ricoh site. >> > A camera body > is all about giving an impressive >> line of glass a home . >> > These babies > are dog ugly...: not going to spend >> five grand for them. >> > > http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/lens.html >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > On 6/3/15 12:39 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > Mark, >> > $8,000 for a MF SLR PLUS a MFDB of 50MP PLUS a MF >> 55/f2.8 > about the same >> > > cost as a M240 or new M246 or Nocti 0.95 all >> > alone. >> > >> > It's a freaking steal >> > > anyway you slice it! The > Canon >> EOS1-D C is $8,000 18MP AND NO LENS! >> > >> > Yes it's >> > > > expensive, but >> compared to others in the market, it's a give away! >> > >> > > What are >> > > you >> waiting for? A Pentax complete MF camera and lens > system for the >> > > same >> price as a Canon body... Keep us posted... > :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > Bob Adler >> > >> Robert Adler >> > > Photography >> > > www.robertadlerphotography.com >> > >> > > On >> Jun 2, 2015, at 8:10 PM, > Mark >> > > Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > > There's > the aspect perhaps that >> > > once you're getting into >> thousands of >> > > > dollars not just hundreds you're >> > > talking about >> financing. And its a > thing you arrange with a banker and >> > > a payment is a >> payment. Its a > slight bigger monthly chunk of money >> > > you're paying off to >> get > Schneider glass or Leica glass. Or Pentax >> > > glass which is marvelously >> > above average. >> > > So when it comes to having to finance something I'd > go >> for the gusto. >> > > I'd not skimp on glass. And who knows what Pentax > sensor >> is like vs. >> > > a Leica or a PhaseOne.? No clue. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On >> 6/2/15 9:13 >> > > PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> >> > >> Our >> local store is having a >> > > Pentax 645Z sale where if you > buy the body >> (a50MP >> > >> back is an integral >> > > component), you get > a free 55mm f/2,8 >> lens. >> > > >> > > For >> > >> $8k... >> > > >> > > > Phase is >> > > going to have a >> tough time with prosumers and > dilettantes >> > >> like >> > > me... >> > > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jun 2, > 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mark Rabiner >> > >> >> <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> A new standard in >> photography is being hyped with > this new >> > > major upgrade to >> > >> the >> whole medium format PhaseOne > system the whole thing >> > > seemingly totally >> >> > >> re >> > >> designed > and the top ended of three >> > >> cameras >> > > having >> a CMOS but the > lower two >> > >> sticking with a more traditional for >> > >> >> >> > > > medium format CCD. >> > >> XF IQ3 80MP - $48,990 / ?38,990 CMOS XF >> > IQ3 60MP - >> > >> >> > > $41,990 / ?33,990 CCD >> > >> XF IQ3 50MP - $40,990 > / >> ?31,990 CCD >> > >> >> > >> Is the top >> > > end >> > >> one the lower > ones not >> that much cheaper. >> > >> >> > >> What really caught me >> > > is > the way >> > >> >> the Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter >> > >> lenses >> > >> > are being >> > > >> described or >> > >> hyped. >> > >> They are rated at > 100MP. Not line pairs but >> MP's >> > > which are >> > >> megapixels. So >> > > >> glass now is now rated now >> by its real >> > > resolution (line >> > >> > pairs), contrast or >> > >> MTF >> charts but on what size digital >> > > file > they can >> > >> support. >> > >> The >> upshot one may assume you know when > you spend >> > > tens of thousands >> > >> >> on a >> > >> new >> > >> lens > you wont be buying a camera >> > > afterwards which >> resolves higher >> > >> > than your >> > >> lens thus putting a damper on >> > > >> the buying of the > camera for a big >> > >> part. >> > >> To me this is a >> milestone but >> > > > I'm ready for someone here to tell me >> > >> its >> > >> >> been >> > >> > going on for years. >> > > This is the first I've noticed. >> > >> >> >> > >> > I do >> > >> think I've been using for most >> > > of my digital experience >> > over the past >> > >> dozen >> > >> years glass that resolved >> > > higher > than >> my camera bodies. And lived. >> > >> But I've >> > >> not been in a > medium >> > > >> format mindset. Or do set. But instead I've >> > >> been > going >> > >> through >> the >> > > burgeoning beginnings of fairly serious > digital >> > >> photography. >> Not >> > >> the pie >> > > in the shy over the > top end. >> > >> >> > >> Lenses >> Ready for 100MP >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > > >> >> > > Mark >> > >> William Rabiner >> > >> >> Photographer >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > Leica > Users Group. >> > See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Sonny >> > http://sonc.com/look/ >> Natchitoches, Louisiana >> >> 1714 >> Oldest > Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase >> >> USA >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> > See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >> > > > > -- > Bob >> Adler > www.robertadlerphotography.com > > > ________________________________________ >> _______ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for >> more information > > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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