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Subject: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 16:26:45 -0500
References: <8AC5F3D0-10C8-40BF-AB34-B8F4D9FF2DBD@gmail.com> <D194E73B.3C2D5%mark@rabinergroup.com> <02ba01d09e43$1abe4920$503adb60$@mcmaster.co.nz>

Wikipedia knows all,

"Takumar is the name that Asahi Optical gave to its lenses, notably but not
exclusively those for its own SLR cameras. Named after the Japanese
craftsman Takuma Kajiwara (???? ,Kajiwara Takuma"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takumar>

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:

> I think you may be looking at the lenses from the wrong side ;-) They are
> for using rather than looking at......
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 9:18 a.m.
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system
>
> Oh boy a Pentax!! Will I be able to get Super Takumar lenses? NO!
> I know I just checked the Ricoh site.
> A camera body is all about giving an impressive line of glass a home .
> These babies are dog ugly...: not going to spend five grand for them.
> http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/lens.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/3/15 12:39 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mark,
> $8,000 for a MF SLR PLUS a MFDB of 50MP PLUS a MF 55/f2.8 about the same
> > cost as a M240 or new M246 or Nocti 0.95 all alone.
>
> It's a freaking steal
> > anyway you slice it! The Canon EOS1-D C is $8,000 18MP AND NO LENS!
>
> Yes it's
> > expensive, but compared to others in the market, it's a give away!
>
> What are
> > you waiting for? A Pentax complete MF camera and lens system for the
> > same price as a Canon body... Keep us posted... :-)
>
>
>
> Bob Adler
> Robert Adler
> > Photography
> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>
> > On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Mark
> > Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > There's the aspect perhaps that
> > once you're getting into thousands of
> > dollars not just hundreds you're
> > talking about financing. And its a thing you arrange with a banker and
> > a payment is a payment. Its a slight bigger monthly chunk of money
> > you're paying off to get Schneider glass or Leica glass. Or Pentax
> > glass which is marvelously above average.
> > So when it comes to having to finance something I'd go for the gusto.
> > I'd not skimp on glass. And who knows what  Pentax sensor is like vs.
> > a Leica or a PhaseOne.? No clue.
> >
> >
> >> On 6/2/15 9:13
> > PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our local store is having a
> > Pentax 645Z sale where if you buy the body (a50MP
> >> back is an integral
> > component), you get a free 55mm f/2,8 lens.
> >
> > For
> >> $8k...
> >
> > Phase is
> > going to have a tough time with prosumers and dilettantes
> >> like
> > me...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mark Rabiner
> >> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> A new standard in photography is being hyped with this new
> > major upgrade to
> >> the whole medium format PhaseOne system the whole thing
> > seemingly totally
> >> re
> >> designed and the top ended of three
> >> cameras
> > having a CMOS but the lower two
> >> sticking with a more traditional for
> >>
> > medium format CCD.
> >> XF IQ3 80MP - $48,990 / ?38,990 CMOS
> >> XF IQ3 60MP -
> >>
> > $41,990 / ?33,990 CCD
> >> XF IQ3 50MP - $40,990 / ?31,990 CCD
> >>
> >> Is the top
> > end
> >> one the lower ones not that much cheaper.
> >>
> >> What really caught me
> > is the way
> >> the Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter
> >> lenses
> >> are being
> > described or
> >> hyped.
> >> They are rated at  100MP. Not line pairs but MP's
> > which are
> >> megapixels. So
> >> glass now is now rated now by its real
> > resolution (line
> >> pairs), contrast or
> >> MTF charts but on what size digital
> > file they can
> >> support.
> >> The upshot one may assume you know when you spend
> > tens of thousands
> >> on a
> >> new
> >> lens you wont be buying a camera
> > afterwards which resolves higher
> >> than your
> >> lens thus putting a damper on
> > the buying of the camera for a big
> >> part.
> >> To me this is a milestone but
> > I'm ready for someone here to tell me
> >> its
> >> been
> >> going on for years.
> > This is the first I've noticed.
> >>
> >> I do
> >> think I've been using for most
> > of my digital experience over the past
> >> dozen
> >> years glass that resolved
> > higher than my camera bodies. And lived.
> >> But I've
> >> not been in a medium
> > format mindset. Or do set. But instead I've
> >> been going
> >> through the
> > burgeoning beginnings of fairly serious digital
> >> photography. Not
> >> the pie
> > in the shy over the top end.
> >>
> >> Lenses Ready for 100MP
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> > Mark
> >> William Rabiner
> >> Photographer
> >>
>
>
>
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Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
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USA


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