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Subject: [Leica] So much for "film is forever"..
From: leica at jayburleson.com (Jay Burleson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 20:33:36 -0700
References: <D17A7B13.3A40E%mark@rabinergroup.com> <814A9936-C401-45C9-8512-012348487329@aotera.org> <CAH1UNJ3s6ai9pyed_zqouYmquWafgyxexqBKG=yBbWRXJ0f-6A@mail.gmail.com>

"I tell ya, the only way to preserve your work is to be famous. Then 
everybody wants it, there will be plenty of copies around, and people 
who own the prints will take care of them. The rest of us are probably 
screwed."

Quote by Mike Johnston, TOP

On 5/14/2015 7:37 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> I have been following this thread with interest, as this is a problem that
> all of us have, and my primary takeaway is that all archival systems seem
> to be deeply flawed in the long term, so we might as well use the one that
> is convenient to us and not worry about it. As Keynes said, in the long
> term we are all dead. Your pictures, however, are damned either way....:-)
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Spencer Cheng <spencer at aotera.org> 
> wrote:
>
>> We are going way off topic here so this is my last comment. I did not say
>> to store your digital media using microfiche.
>>
>> I am aware of a group of digital archivist (including someone from NIST)
>> working on how to preserve digital media in a standardized fashion.
>>
>> Best practice digital media preservation currently require regular active
>> copying and indefinite transcription of digital media to protect again
>> deterioration of storage media and format obsolescence.
>>
>> If you are not doing both, your stored media is likely to stay ephemeral
>> despite of what you believe.
>>
>> Mark, do as you wish but 1?s magically becomes 0?s in digital media
>> whether you believe it?s going to happen or not. Good Luck.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Spencer
>>
>>> On May 14, 2015, at 16:17, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  From the Library of Congress  (USA)
>>> "Does the Library of Congress recommend microfilming or digitization for
>>> reformatting institutional collections?....
>>>
>>> " That said, the end of microfilming is near, despite it's relatively low
>>> cost and the several hundred year projected lifetime of preservation
>> film.
>>> The National Endowment for the Humanities no longer funds grants for
>>> microfilming and microfilm readers are increasingly difficult to maintain
>>> and service."
>>>
>>> http://www.loc.gov/preservation/about/faqs/reformatting.html#prescopy
>>>
>>> Recognizing Digitization as a Preservation Reformatting Method
>>> http://chnm.gmu.edu/digitalhistory/links/pdf/preserving/8_34a.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/14/15 1:17 AM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Canadian Archive uses microfiche which are stable for 100+ years (or
>> acid-free
>>>> paper for documents). The Canadian census was stored that way. ?was?
>> because I
>>>> am not sure we have a real census any more.
>>>
>>> Digital storage is very
>>>> ephemeral. I doubt if most digital storage will last more than 10
>> years. Those
>>>> 1?s randomly change to 0?s far too frequently. I don?t think archivist
>> like
>>>> digital media very much.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Spencer
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Replies: Reply from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] So much for "film is forever"..)
In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] So much for "film is forever"..)
Message from spencer at aotera.org (Spencer Cheng) ([Leica] So much for "film is forever"..)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] So much for "film is forever"..)